My 2022 Cayman GTS
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2 year update. How time flies.
13600 miles in and the car has just had its first (2year) service. I asked the Technician to check the old oil filter when he’d taken it out and he was happy there are no signs of abnormal wear. Some small particles of swarf but nothing he hasn’t seen before on a first oil change. Tyres are all good but I’ll need a set of rears in about 10 months or so and my service guy said he’d look after me however the service report quoted £245 fitted for a new Pirelli PZ4. I'll be holding them to that.
Had a Taycan GTS as a loaner for the day and a very nice car it is. Admittedly the range isn't fantastic at ~230ish miles at 100% but we could live with that. Just a shame the bottom has fallen out of them. The loaner we had was on a 73 plate with 2500 miles on the clock. List was roughly £120-130k with options. It's now on the website for £94k. Oh dear.
All in, including brake fluid change and the customary 1ltr of oil at a cost of £42
(I forgot to tell them not to put it in ), came to £850 until I asked for my PCGB discount so it brought it down by £85. I then spent that on 2 engine air filters as they say they aren’t changed until the 3rd service which is at year 6! I’ll fit the filters when the ruddy rain stops.
In general the car is running like a dream. Oil consumption is to be expected given the 4.0 likes to drink it and I'll keep my eye on how much it uses now there is fresh oil floating around.
It's been an expensive month. Car insurance is my worst nightmare and I'd budgeted for £1200 given the current ridiculous rise in the cost and it did rise but only by £217 so in total £858 for the year. I asked my insurance company to see if reducing the value of the car did anything and it dropped it by £6 so I said not to bother. Same with the mileage from 9000 to 7500 and that made no difference at all. Road tax was also due and the DVLA relieved me of £570 to ensure they installed as many potholes in the country as possible. What do we actually pay this for?? I also renewed my excess insurance with ALA for £20 and the Porsche Remote Services was another £105. I'm not going to renew the Porsche Car Connect as the only thing I've ever used on it is the petrol price search and I don't use the built in nav as Waze is much better in my opinion.
Time to start skimming off the top again now for next years road tax and insurance. I'll more than likely extend the warranty for a year but after talking with 'er in doors last night she suggested just taking it out for 3 years and saving the £200 rather than doing it yearly. I'll have a think but it's easy for her to say that as she's not paying for it
Dan
13600 miles in and the car has just had its first (2year) service. I asked the Technician to check the old oil filter when he’d taken it out and he was happy there are no signs of abnormal wear. Some small particles of swarf but nothing he hasn’t seen before on a first oil change. Tyres are all good but I’ll need a set of rears in about 10 months or so and my service guy said he’d look after me however the service report quoted £245 fitted for a new Pirelli PZ4. I'll be holding them to that.
Had a Taycan GTS as a loaner for the day and a very nice car it is. Admittedly the range isn't fantastic at ~230ish miles at 100% but we could live with that. Just a shame the bottom has fallen out of them. The loaner we had was on a 73 plate with 2500 miles on the clock. List was roughly £120-130k with options. It's now on the website for £94k. Oh dear.
All in, including brake fluid change and the customary 1ltr of oil at a cost of £42
(I forgot to tell them not to put it in ), came to £850 until I asked for my PCGB discount so it brought it down by £85. I then spent that on 2 engine air filters as they say they aren’t changed until the 3rd service which is at year 6! I’ll fit the filters when the ruddy rain stops.In general the car is running like a dream. Oil consumption is to be expected given the 4.0 likes to drink it and I'll keep my eye on how much it uses now there is fresh oil floating around.
It's been an expensive month. Car insurance is my worst nightmare and I'd budgeted for £1200 given the current ridiculous rise in the cost and it did rise but only by £217 so in total £858 for the year. I asked my insurance company to see if reducing the value of the car did anything and it dropped it by £6 so I said not to bother. Same with the mileage from 9000 to 7500 and that made no difference at all. Road tax was also due and the DVLA relieved me of £570 to ensure they installed as many potholes in the country as possible. What do we actually pay this for?? I also renewed my excess insurance with ALA for £20 and the Porsche Remote Services was another £105. I'm not going to renew the Porsche Car Connect as the only thing I've ever used on it is the petrol price search and I don't use the built in nav as Waze is much better in my opinion.
Time to start skimming off the top again now for next years road tax and insurance. I'll more than likely extend the warranty for a year but after talking with 'er in doors last night she suggested just taking it out for 3 years and saving the £200 rather than doing it yearly. I'll have a think but it's easy for her to say that as she's not paying for it
Dan
Sounds good Dan, all in all not two bad for two years in? I'm hoping for a similarly decent insurance surprise next month but we'll see. The car tax is what has gotten my goat most of late, it's crazy money these days!
Sounds like a good deal on the tyres, definitely hold them to that
Sounds like a good deal on the tyres, definitely hold them to that
Yes, that premium vehicle [stealth!] tax in years 2-6 is a real hitter Dave, now up to £390 I see … although I don’t know if the increased rate only applies to new registrations?
At least the upcoming electric Cayman will be exempt!
Good update there Dan and pleased to hear that everything’s going smoothly with the car. It’s odd that the new engine seems to use oil on a regular basis especially since the 9A1 engines used in the 987 and 981-series cars aren’t noted for high oil consumption, but there you go.
Jeff
At least the upcoming electric Cayman will be exempt!Good update there Dan and pleased to hear that everything’s going smoothly with the car. It’s odd that the new engine seems to use oil on a regular basis especially since the 9A1 engines used in the 987 and 981-series cars aren’t noted for high oil consumption, but there you go.
Jeff
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I think you’ll find that all air filters look grubby even with very little use Dan. Although a 60k mile replacement cycle does seem to be a bit excessive, Porsche will have confirmed that they’re still effective at that mileage. No harm in changing them earlier of course.
Jeff
Jeff
I agree Jeff but I'll change them in the next 2 years after the major and then they'll be done again as part of the service at year 6.
I did think it was going to be quite difficult and fearful that if anything breaks it's going to be expensive but it went quite smoothly.
I've just been out and given her a bath as I never ask the OPC to do it and, as to be expected, it's new persisting it down. Some lovely beading going on though
I did think it was going to be quite difficult and fearful that if anything breaks it's going to be expensive but it went quite smoothly.
I've just been out and given her a bath as I never ask the OPC to do it and, as to be expected, it's new persisting it down. Some lovely beading going on though
I assume that like the 981, replacing the filters means levering-off a few bits of plastic trim Dan? Always a bit tricky unless you know where all the clips are, but well done negotiating their removal without any minor disasters.
My white GR Yaris sits outside and I decided to get it Gtechiq ceramic coated [the first time for any of my cars]. I’ve not cleaned it for ages and have been surprised how clean it looks after all the rain … well the top half of the car down to the horizontal cut line anyway, and all the dirt has collected on the protruding door sills!
Jeff
My white GR Yaris sits outside and I decided to get it Gtechiq ceramic coated [the first time for any of my cars]. I’ve not cleaned it for ages and have been surprised how clean it looks after all the rain … well the top half of the car down to the horizontal cut line anyway, and all the dirt has collected on the protruding door sills!
Jeff
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Given that the system is the same as a 981, at this mileage - use I`d expect the other side / downstream side of the filter to be pristineI think you’ll find that all air filters look grubby even with very little use Dan. Although a 60k mile replacement cycle does seem to be a bit excessive, Porsche will have confirmed that they’re still effective at that mileage. No harm in changing them earlier of course.
Jeff
I used to have my OPC retain all filters for me, six years @ 30k CS and six years @ 20k GT4 ... downstream sides were perfectly clean ... to the eye
Wish I`d opened them up to see further - show evidence that supports Porsche`s replacement schedule
That’s what I would expect Andrew, but any dirt in the filter will of course have a negative effect on air flowing through it, however marginal, so I suppose that could be an argument for replacing the filter more regularly if you’re chasing maximum engine performance.
Jeff
Jeff
I’m sure that Porsche’s evaluation would have included the same sort of appraisal Andrew: physical examination of the filter internals and dyno testing to monitor any significant power losses, leading them to recommend a 6-year/60,000 mile filter service life. Plus their supplier will have conducted their own evaluation, probably including flow testing with different amounts of filter contamination?
Jeff
Jeff
So this morning I noticed a new icon appear in the MFD and after an email to my service guy he informs me that it’s an update to the MFD for 2023 onwards. The idea is it’s to warn of a brake servo issue before driving the car but should go out when the car is running.
I had visions of the Technician not putting enough brake fluid in.
I had visions of the Technician not putting enough brake fluid in.
Sounds like information overload to me Dan.
Just out of interest, how reliable is the speed limit warning. The camera-based system on my GR Yaris is a bit hit-and-miss, but I have a feeling that the Porsche system also uses GPS data as well? I see that it seems to have dropped off the configurator as an option … probably the usual supply issue!
Jeff
Just out of interest, how reliable is the speed limit warning. The camera-based system on my GR Yaris is a bit hit-and-miss, but I have a feeling that the Porsche system also uses GPS data as well? I see that it seems to have dropped off the configurator as an option … probably the usual supply issue!
Jeff
Sounds like information overload to me Dan.
Just out of interest, how reliable is the speed limit warning. The camera-based system on my GR Yaris is a bit hit-and-miss, but I have a feeling that the Porsche system also uses GPS data as well? I see that it seems to have dropped off the configurator as an option … probably the usual supply issue!
Jeff
When I had the camera based system in my first GTS 4.0 is was pretty reliable; it nearly always spotted the roadside signs unless they were seriously obscured by foliage etc. It was a useful thing to have. It isn't on my current car, so have to rely on GPS on the sat nav which is often out of date, even with continuously updated sat nav like Google, Waze and TomTom.
You are right that it is no longer available due to camera supply issues.
So picture this.
A fabulous Spa break with OC Home Command at the picturesque Crewe Hall with a great drive home this morning. Happy days. I offer to pick up the girl child from the stables (in the wife’s car I might add) and on arriving home I notice something unusual with the rear tyre on the GTS.
Now let’s just say I can handle an issue with a tyre however it’s 1600 hours and the positioning of the offending item means the chances of a repair are slim. Admittedly I have mentioned that I’d need new rears by the end of the year however rather than have one tyre replaced I’ve elected to have them both done (my OCD would be in free fall otherwise). So the tyre fitters have relieved me of £660 for the pleasure of some new boots. I rang my OPC and am yet waiting on a return call however after phoning another Centre I was shocked that they wanted £380 EACH! Er no thank you very much.
So I’ve just been out in the rain to take the rears off and temporarily put on my winters. I’ve removed the centre caps and the tyre valve caps, as they always go missing, and I’ve removed the wheel weights. Needless to say I checked the other 3 and no foreigners were found. Sadly the fitters don’t use the painted wheel weights so I’ll get some light grey Hammerite whilst I’m out and paint the weights when I get home.
So, if anyone is in need of a part worn Pirelli PZ4 with roughly 4.5mm across the board then give me a shout and we’ll work something out.
A fabulous Spa break with OC Home Command at the picturesque Crewe Hall with a great drive home this morning. Happy days. I offer to pick up the girl child from the stables (in the wife’s car I might add) and on arriving home I notice something unusual with the rear tyre on the GTS.
Now let’s just say I can handle an issue with a tyre however it’s 1600 hours and the positioning of the offending item means the chances of a repair are slim. Admittedly I have mentioned that I’d need new rears by the end of the year however rather than have one tyre replaced I’ve elected to have them both done (my OCD would be in free fall otherwise). So the tyre fitters have relieved me of £660 for the pleasure of some new boots. I rang my OPC and am yet waiting on a return call however after phoning another Centre I was shocked that they wanted £380 EACH! Er no thank you very much.
So I’ve just been out in the rain to take the rears off and temporarily put on my winters. I’ve removed the centre caps and the tyre valve caps, as they always go missing, and I’ve removed the wheel weights. Needless to say I checked the other 3 and no foreigners were found. Sadly the fitters don’t use the painted wheel weights so I’ll get some light grey Hammerite whilst I’m out and paint the weights when I get home.
So, if anyone is in need of a part worn Pirelli PZ4 with roughly 4.5mm across the board then give me a shout and we’ll work something out.
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Dan,
Do you find the Pirelli rear tyres a bit small width-wise compared to the wheel? The real wheel is 10" (254mm) which is not much less than the 265 tyre and a very small difference compared with other models/wheels; the fronts are 8" (203mm) versus 235 tyre.
I wonder if anyone has tried the 275/35 Pirelli PZero N0 fitment - the range for 10" wheels is 255 to 285 tyre width.
Do you find the Pirelli rear tyres a bit small width-wise compared to the wheel? The real wheel is 10" (254mm) which is not much less than the 265 tyre and a very small difference compared with other models/wheels; the fronts are 8" (203mm) versus 235 tyre.
I wonder if anyone has tried the 275/35 Pirelli PZero N0 fitment - the range for 10" wheels is 255 to 285 tyre width.
Hi Ralph.
It is a little lacking in rim protection and the Michelin offers a little more. I did speak to my service guy a couple of months ago about upping the tyre size and he said he couldn't comment really but it would raise an eyebrow if it needed a warranty claim or was involved in an accident!?
Plenty of folk on Rennlist are upping the tyre size (rear width is 10.5 on the 4.0) and going for 295-30-20 & 245-35-20
Have a look at post 104 onwards. Post 115 shows the 4.0 with the wider tyres fitted.
Dan
It is a little lacking in rim protection and the Michelin offers a little more. I did speak to my service guy a couple of months ago about upping the tyre size and he said he couldn't comment really but it would raise an eyebrow if it needed a warranty claim or was involved in an accident!?
Plenty of folk on Rennlist are upping the tyre size (rear width is 10.5 on the 4.0) and going for 295-30-20 & 245-35-20
Have a look at post 104 onwards. Post 115 shows the 4.0 with the wider tyres fitted.
Dan
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