Others maybe able to confirm if the head light covers are, or are not, the same on a Lux front rather than a Turbo front. The light covers on your car appear to match the wings better than the front panel, so it maybe, if there is a difference, they are already a Turbo/S2 style. Is your badge panel welded or bolted on? early cars were welded, so it may have been that which defeated the previous owners attempt at putting the S2 front end on. It is possible to fit a bolt-on badge panel to a car designed for a welded on one... having done so myself. I think you are right, by the way, the correct badge panel, and the gap in the bumper will close up and it all fit nicely. The wings apear to match the profile of the PU well enough that I would suspect both are the genuine article. Regards, Tref.
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my car NOW NOT for sale or part ex plus cash-UPDATE
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iputthebootin
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Cheers Tref, the badge panel with it is a bolt on type but it obviously had a welded on type at some point as the spot weld marks are still there. I think i have renewed vigour to finish this with the info you have all given me. It all makes sense now. You're all stars!!
944 man
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Original 951 wings, badge panel and headlamp covers are all different to original 924 parts. With regards to the alloy bumper: whether you need one depends on how the GRP part was intended to fit. Some mount on the original bumper whilst tohers are designed to bolt to the original mounts (one 924 bumper mount and one threaded mount, on a 944 Lux: the 951 uses two of these threaded mounts and the mounts are all interchangeable). To add further confusion (though hopefully clarity) some reproduction 951 noses are designed to fit up to original 944 wigs and use a standard badge panel (and by default - lamp covers). Some also fit an existing 924-type badge panel but require 951 type wings. Combinations of all of the above are possibe; so its hard to know what to advise... Simon Simon
Peter Empson
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Think I could do with one of these soon given the rate my hair is falling out [ORIGINAL: 944 man 944 wigs
James_G
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Not sure if this link will help or not, but here's a 1983 car on eBay that's had what looks like a repro PU fitted. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PORSCHE-944-1983-GUARDS-RED-BLACK-LEATHER_W0QQitemZ270422565438QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item3ef670e23e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1683%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 I have no comments on the asking price.....
944 man
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Thats a look-a-like 951 nose, which fits onto original 944 wings and uses the 924-type badge panel. Probably from Pro-9. A friend asked me to look at that car earlier as he was considering it. The salesman is a gobshite: 'appreciating classic' my backside! [
] The leather sports bolsters are the only thing of interest there...
Peter Empson
PCGB Member
Simon D's car has a turbo style front end on standard wings, it looks pretty good (well it would if the mould was removed and it was painted [
]), the only areas where they look a bit off is the area in front of the badge panel (understandably) and often around the openings for the radiator where the fibreglass has a rougher/thicker finish.
iputthebootin
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Ok just an update. I thought about all the advice given by you kind souls and all the info supplied and i decided to go and get a turbo nose panel today after lookin at the pics closely and also some brackets as i figured it would be a waste to let it go after nearly getting it finished. I offered up the panel and also repaired the bumper where it had been cut and put that in place too and suddenly it doesnt look too bad. The key to all this was the nose panel in my opinion. I had judged it prev on the old panel not knowing that the shape was different but then by my own admission im not really clued up on the tiny differences but thanks to you lot putting me straight im now determined to finish it off. So you heard it here first- NOT FOR SALE- thanks everyone. shaun
Good move Shaun... Keep us posted of progress... it is surprising how even a minor niggle shared on the forum or at a monthly meeting can drastically ease a problem. A classic example recently I was going to strip out the fuel lines on my 924 as I believed them blocked. talking about this some-one suggested I prove it by blowing them through with an air-line - a chance comment, but how many hours work did it save!
944 man
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Cant you get by with the existing badge panel (many GRP 951 style noses are adapted to use the original 924-type anyway)? The reason that I ask is that series one car (like yours) use a welded on badge panel; wheras series two cars (1986 model year onwards: both normally aspirated and turbocharged) use a bolt on panel. This means that taking your original part off will neccessitate the drilling out of all of the spotwelds...
Peter Empson
PCGB Member
I'd agree with Simon above, also don't forget that you'd need to change the headlight covers too, so even more bits and work to do. Rick has a good solution that works on his Turbo that has a 924T badge panel, here's the first pic I came across (there's loads on his site) which shows the difference in shape and the small filling piece he's added: [link=http://www.cannell.co.uk/images/Cannell_web/944T%2081%206.jpg]http://www.cannell.co.uk/images/Cannell_web/944T%2081%206.jpg[/link]
iputthebootin
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Got the bumper all fixed back together today and managed to get it on and in place and the nose panel fits much better on top now so things are looking up. Im determined to get it finished. Gonna get the bumper off again and get it sprayed next week. I know the purists wont be happy with it not being original but its what was with it when i bought it and admittedly i bought it green, not knowing the different styles of bumper but im gonna put up with it for a little while until there is more money in the coffers and get an original one and put it back the way it was. What i have still in my budget for the time being im gonna put towards getting the clutch done for peace of mind. When its done i'll put up some pics. shaun
frankydoom
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I just happens to have a pair - and waiiiit - no rust well stonechip dots rust and some surface rust - pictures available color is bright yellow ....( looked stunning my cab in that color)- I just send a mail out on titanic forum.... - and yes they are hard to come by now - and they are 350 each i believe from Porsche ......... the turbo/s2 wings - not sure how much a bonnet would be and the light lids.... - i don't think i have a nose panel - i need to check on that..... FrankIf the turbo wings are rot free selling them may well offset the cost of the correct front end as I understand rot free turbo wings are hard to come by 2nd hand.
ORIGINAL: JamesO If the turbo wings are rot free selling them may well offset the cost of the correct front end as I understand rot free turbo wings are hard to come by 2nd hand.
iputthebootin
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Just wondering, if i replace the headlight lids for turbo types will i need to change the current surrounding plastic pods they sit on too. I have everything in place now and have a gap between the headlight lid and nose panel that isnt right which i assume is because the lids are lux and the nose is turbo.
random hero
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The surrounds are the same as i bought a turbo lid for a lux by mistake and it fit fine other than the obvious different shape to the badge panel.
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