MY08 OPC allocations?

[Alex L]

Does anyone know if the UK OPCs have been given their MY08 allocation numbers yet?

A few US Porsche dealers have theirs now, and my OPC is not responding to any of my attempts to contact them on the matter.

I am worried they are laying low as their original estimates they gave me for my Turbo coupe build was this Christmas. However, given the allocation new numbers of the US dealers, NEXT christmas may be more accurate!!

Over on the Rennteam site someone gave the allocations of a Texas dealership for MY08....

25 Cabs + 15 Coupes (with over a year waiting list on the cab due to demand)

...I assume that means for MY07 there were 40 Coupe slots. So nearly 3 times less in MY08!

If I do have to wait a lot longer then my current 997 will have depreciated so much by then that a trade in won't be possible and I will have to pull out of my order. In such cases would I be able to get my 10k deposit back does anyone know?

 

[YvesD]

Alex,

They do know, even at this late hour I could squeeze a new turbo into my garage for the end of the year if ordered now......

I'm sure you will get your motor as promised by the OPC.

Yves

 

[YvesD]

If I do have to wait a lot longer then my current 997 will have depreciated so much by then that a trade in won't be possible and I will have to pull out of my order. In such cases would I be able to get my 10k deposit back does anyone know?

Yes you will, I did when I pulled my order last year.

Dont forget to ask for the interest earned back too.

Yves

 

[keithpms]

Alex, you can certainly get your £10k deposit back as long as you cancel before they pass your final spec to PorscheGB (roughly 3 months before delivery). Not sure whether there is a charge if you look to cancel after then. I agree with Yves, the purchase order small print certainly also makes provision for return of interest accrued on your £10k. However I cancelled a 997TT order late last year and it took some time for the OPC to return my £10k (they did not dispute it should be returned, but took weeks before sending me the cheque quoting the accountants holiday as an excuse!). I wanted the money to place my order at another OPC and so didn't ask for the interest in case this delayed return of my deposit even more.

There is nothing to stop you doing likewise if you can secure an earlier delivery on a new 997TT at another OPC. There are rumours of two new OPCs opening soon (Andy Goss interview in Porsche Post I think). It may be worth you trying them before they open in an attempt to secure their first allocation - are they new dealerships or expanding existing dealerships?). Thats how I have secured an early delivery (picking her up next Wednesday). From chatting to my (new) OPC I believe they have all recently been given their allocations for next year, but numbers are less than expected as Porsche are trying to improve residual values (which does tie in with comments made by our american friends on Rennteam). You need to really press your OPC for answers, using a threat to place your order elsewhere if necessary. I appreciate the OPCs are kept in the dark to an extent, but they should certainly hold more up to date information than you or I.

Good luck....

Keith

 

[garyw]

The new OPC in Leicester is Nick Whale (Solihull)
Alex, call the other dealers... they may be more interested in your order than others who already think they have it ....

Can't remember who the other one is...[&:]

garyw

 

[Alex L]

Thanks guys, good input and good ideas []

I will do some calling this weekend.

I am frankly bemused by the lack of communication coming back to me on build slot dates / options enquires / etc that I am receiving. I currently have a couple of outstanding emails and many left phone messages unanswered from over 2 weeks ago. I am seemingly being ignored or avoided.
You would have thought that a 6-figure transaction would warrant at least a little customer care; but my 'sales executive' point of contact seems to care-less now that he has my £10k deposit []
So I think I need to shake things up a bit...

 

[Guest]

Could the lack of allocation be because of the intro of the facelift? a friend said that there was a gap in the allocations around Feb because of that?

 

[Alex L]

Nope; just called 4 other UK OPCs and not one of them could get me a Turbo Coupe before the middle of next year. That includes the new branches yet to open. All very interested to take my business but given the major decrease in Coupe Allocations for MY08 there is just way more demand than supply.

They suggested that my best course of action would be to push my current OPC for them to do the leg-work and source me a car ASAP. Whether that be from another OPCs queue or some other way.

So I think I am just going to be very up-front and tell my OPC to work some magic or lose my business. Plus I will start looking at the used cars with very low mileage to see if I can find a similar spec to what I want.

 

[Alex L]

ORIGINAL: Spizz Oil

Could the lack of allocation be because of the intro of the facelift? a friend said that there was a gap in the allocations around Feb because of that?

I dont think the Carrera facelift will be available until the end of 2008, so I doubt it.

It's due to Porsche reducing all Turbos by 20% in order to keep residuals on the used market high. Plus there is such a queue for Cabriolets that the Coupe numbers are really being cut back to make way for them.

 

[Alex L]

ORIGINAL: Alex L

Nope; just called 4 other UK OPCs and not one of them could get me a Turbo Coupe before the middle of next year.

Painful, I am seeing other people round the world order THIS WEEK and getting September and October slots!

Perhaps I should look at some EU Porsche Centres.

 

[garyw]

Cabriolets are expected to be 40% of sales..!

Alex, I feel your pain.. having gone through the experience and being messed around by the OPC on my purchase.
As you say, the money your spending you'd expect a good service but they can fill your spot straight away, so do they care ? I don't think they do [:'(]

garyw

 

[Alex L]

UPDATE:

Finally had a reply from my OPC. I have been initially allocated an Apr 2008 build slot!!! []

They are going to try to bring this down a little if a slot comes available but frankly I am not sure I prepared to wait 9-12 months for a car that would have been out 2 years by the time I get it.

Plus, by this time next year my Cabriolet would have dropped another £10k in resale value making it a serious chunk of cash to upgrade to a Turbo.

So the question I need to think about is do I pull out and get my deposit back?

My OPC wants to know if I would still be prepared to continue should a build slot come available Dec/Jan/Feb. Right now I am thinking of telling them that unless I have the car in my garage by the end of this year then I will walk. However, I am pretty sure they will say that is definitely not going be possible.

What do you think?

 

[YvesD]

Alex,

You secretly know what to do......

Pull the plug, get your Cab flexed up, cherish it, keep it, hand it down to your wife, son, daughter, whatever and but an X50 ASBO Turbo as the 997 model comes toward the end of its life span.

Tune the proverbials off that too and start the process all over again !

You know it make sense

Yves

 

[YvesD]

ORIGINAL: YvesD

Alex,

You secretly know what to do......

Pull the plug, get your Cab flexed up, cherish it, keep it, hand it down to your wife, son, daughter, whatever and but an X50 ASBO Turbo as the 997 model comes toward the end of its life span.

Tune the proverbials off that too and start the process all over again !

You know it make sense

Yves

Meant to say 'buy' not 'but' an ASBO TT

Sorry

Yves

Looking forward to the F1 qualifiying from Indy in a few minutes time by the way.

yVES

 

[Alex L]

ORIGINAL: YvesD

Alex,

You secretly know what to do......

Pull the plug, get your Cab flexed up, cherish it, keep it, hand it down to your wife, son, daughter, whatever and but an X50 ASBO Turbo as the 997 model comes toward the end of its life span.

Tune the proverbials off that too and start the process all over again !

You know it make sense

Yves

I DO love my current Cab, and it's not like I really NEED more BHP.

I am only really doing this now as my concern is I may not be able to upgrade later once I start having kid, a bigger house etc - money priorities will change.

Perhaps the most efficient way to not lose a tonne of money on trade-ins is to just keep the C2S Cab forever and buy a new 998 Turbo when it comes out around 2012.

...but still, I have been so excited at the prospect of owning a TRUE supercar. I think I am going to deliberate about this one for a while. BTW: I would look at pre-owned Turbos but when spending 100k plus on a car it really should be a perfect fit. Plus even year old models have hardly dropped in price yet. So I am ruling that option out.

 

[YvesD]

Yes, and another thing, I dont know what your mileage profile is like but I havent managed 6000 miles in 2 years from new in mine. Its effectively 'new' usage wise and on that basis it would be madness to swap for something else to do the same thing again.

No, this ones for keeps, looking back at my car buying money wasting past, I wish I had kept the M3, 535d etc etc.

Must learn the lesson this time.

Yves

 

[YvesD]

I DO love my current Cab, and it's not like I really NEED more BHP.

I am only really doing this now as my concern is I may not be able to upgrade later once I start having kid, a bigger house etc - money priorities will change.

Alex,

None of us know whats going to happen tomorrow, never mind that far off so enjoy what you have and count your blessings.

We have discussed this before, just because a car is 'faster' doesnt make it more enjoyable to drive. I loved the bonkers thrust of the Turbo when I test drove it and it is some kind of ultimate, but, I did not enjoy the driving experience more than the C2S.

Now, must get ITV4 on for the F1.

Speak later,

Yves

 

[sotoole]

Encouraging to hear that Porsche are adjusting the supply/demand balance for 08 to protect resale values. My 997 TT is up for sale, but not until next summer []

 

[keithpms]

Alex

If your OPC has confirmed an April 08 build slot, how are they going to give you a Dec/Jan/Feb to secure your custom? Buying a new porsche nowadays is not the positive experience you would expect for the money you are paying. My only advice is to go with the salesman/OPC you have most confidence in.

Also, I had exactly the same debate/last minute nerves when deciding whether to pay the extra £40k + to upgrade from 997 4S to new TT. In the end the decision has to be made with the heart.

Keith

 

[Ronnie C]

Alex, did you get any indication in your conversations when the Turbo S might be coming out?

Also, someone mentioned a new OPC in Leicester. Anyone know where the other will be?