Nearly new 944!
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I wouldn't want it. You couldn't use it as the millage is too low.It would cost a fortune to get it up to scratch ( as soon as you start putting miles on it it would leak every fluid through every dried up rubber)
It's a car for a museum and a bit of a shame if you ask me. Who ever bought this car new and didn't use it basically wasted its life by letting it sit and not letting it do what it was born to do.
Also it's missing the tow eye cover on it's nose.
It's a car for a museum and a bit of a shame if you ask me. Who ever bought this car new and didn't use it basically wasted its life by letting it sit and not letting it do what it was born to do.
Also it's missing the tow eye cover on it's nose.
pauljmcnulty
Active member
Why would you buy such a lovely example, then not service it for 4 years? [&o]
JagdHamster
New member
Absolutely lovely, but a museum/collectors-piece only.
Russ
Russ
When I see one like this there is part of me wanting to rush out and take hundreds of pictures of it to show what a factory version looked like i.e. how everything fitted, what the labels were, where they were located etc to help answer questions like 'what is the black box just ahead of the battery' and 'what is this I've found in the passenger footwell'... maybe it's just a me thing?
That said, I also hate to see a car deteriorating through a lack of use.
Cheers
Mick
That said, I also hate to see a car deteriorating through a lack of use.
Cheers
Mick
If you want a perfect 944 that you can drive and money is no object then buy the model of your choice and send it back to Porsche's own restoration service and get it back like new. I would love to do this just to see how much it would cost,unfortunately I haven't won the lottery or even bought a ticket so I wont be doing it for a while.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmG9LwzyS2A
check this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmG9LwzyS2A
check this
Indi9xx
New member
If someone was really sure they want a 944 S2 for life, that could well be the car for them.. Sod the museum, think of it as an opportunity to enjoy something which is not for sale, a factory fresh 944 S2.
Having said that, factory fresh, I would say it needs every rubber item on the car replacing, they might look good, but I doubt they will last very long with use.
Also, I am guilty of the "cant use it, its too nice" attitude, its why I sold my Black 968 CS and even why I think about selling my white turbo at times.. But having said that, I also do not ever buy new cars for the same reason, I would hate that new car smell, or its immaculate bits to every loose their luster, but thats me... But for someone, the right person, I think that motor would accumulate a lot of miles over the next 30 or 40 years, will gain a whole load of stone chips, but it will be their stone chips, it will probably still not depreciate over that time even with the extra miles, but someone will have put their miles on it, with their own service history and picked up their own stone chips.. Which I think would be really cool... Its not me though
What is really nice though, none of you are jumping up and down saying "A 944 S2 is only worth £XXXX, it may be nice, but no one will pay that"...
Well done, too many people in 944 forums have been in a rutt of recent years running down the value of their own model.. Which has probably held back the value of the 944 models in recent years.. The real thing is... No one buys a 944 now because its a cheap Porsche... That's an early Boxster..
People buy them because they want a 944, and probably have since the 944 was a current new car... Just as some people buy a 964 or 993 for the same reasons... And for that, the value of a good one, a really good one, is MANY times that of a crappy one.. Yeah, I think plenty of 944's are only worth £500 for a scrapper, or £3k for an unloved roadworthy project, but there are many shades of grey between that £3k car, and what could be a £15k or hell, even a £20k 944... The guy who was a kid with a 944 poster on his wall back in the 80's is not necessarily poorer than the guy who as a kid had a 964 poster... So a dream is a dream, and the dreams value is based on what the dreamer is happy to pay, not just what a lot of sellers are happy to accept!!
But well done, the 944 community might just have turned a corner from believing what some Porsche snobs would say about it being a poor mans Porsche, and actually seeing it as one of the best car's Porsche made... The Ferrari Dino world turned this corner about 15 years ago... Ferrari owners looked down on them, Dino owners undersold them, you could get a good one for £12k, now you need to add another zero to the price.
Having said that, factory fresh, I would say it needs every rubber item on the car replacing, they might look good, but I doubt they will last very long with use.
Also, I am guilty of the "cant use it, its too nice" attitude, its why I sold my Black 968 CS and even why I think about selling my white turbo at times.. But having said that, I also do not ever buy new cars for the same reason, I would hate that new car smell, or its immaculate bits to every loose their luster, but thats me... But for someone, the right person, I think that motor would accumulate a lot of miles over the next 30 or 40 years, will gain a whole load of stone chips, but it will be their stone chips, it will probably still not depreciate over that time even with the extra miles, but someone will have put their miles on it, with their own service history and picked up their own stone chips.. Which I think would be really cool... Its not me though
What is really nice though, none of you are jumping up and down saying "A 944 S2 is only worth £XXXX, it may be nice, but no one will pay that"...
Well done, too many people in 944 forums have been in a rutt of recent years running down the value of their own model.. Which has probably held back the value of the 944 models in recent years.. The real thing is... No one buys a 944 now because its a cheap Porsche... That's an early Boxster..
People buy them because they want a 944, and probably have since the 944 was a current new car... Just as some people buy a 964 or 993 for the same reasons... And for that, the value of a good one, a really good one, is MANY times that of a crappy one.. Yeah, I think plenty of 944's are only worth £500 for a scrapper, or £3k for an unloved roadworthy project, but there are many shades of grey between that £3k car, and what could be a £15k or hell, even a £20k 944... The guy who was a kid with a 944 poster on his wall back in the 80's is not necessarily poorer than the guy who as a kid had a 964 poster... So a dream is a dream, and the dreams value is based on what the dreamer is happy to pay, not just what a lot of sellers are happy to accept!!
But well done, the 944 community might just have turned a corner from believing what some Porsche snobs would say about it being a poor mans Porsche, and actually seeing it as one of the best car's Porsche made... The Ferrari Dino world turned this corner about 15 years ago... Ferrari owners looked down on them, Dino owners undersold them, you could get a good one for £12k, now you need to add another zero to the price.
J.C944TurboMan
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Wow I am loving this Vid link! Amazing what you can have done if money is no object !
Regarding the Mint low miles S2 , Has any one noticed the tow eye cap missing on the front ?
I personally do not like the colour of that S2 , a bit plain looking ? if forced to drive around in the S2 then I might .
Regarding the Mint low miles S2 , Has any one noticed the tow eye cap missing on the front ?
I personally do not like the colour of that S2 , a bit plain looking ? if forced to drive around in the S2 then I might .
pauljmcnulty
Active member
I think we've turned the corner now there are very few 944s that are left either unrestored, or not in need of a lot of restoration. 10 years ago, when I bought my Lux, you could buy one with little rust, and budget a lot less to run them.
Now, there is little chance that the worst cars will be rebuilt. The model becomes rarer, and that gives the good ones a lift. We're also in a strange economic climate, where money in the bank makes less interest than it loses in inflation, so buying a classic car is an alternative investment.
Also, we've seen a real change in the ownership of the cars over ten years. Far more DIYers now own them, and we're seeing the sort of work that few could afford at the specialists: bodywork, engine rebuilds etc. I don't think there's any loss for the indies, although you could comment on that more than me, Jon, as the newer Porsches need so much maintenance. I've certainly seen some companies moving away from the older cars, in order to fit rads to Boxsters and engines to 996s at higher profit levels.
I'd still say that an ordinary 944 S2 is a £10k car: it'll either cost you that to buy a decent one, or you'll spend it on repairs to a cheaper one. A low-miles, original one like this is always going to be much more than that, and I'm surprised not to see it priced higher. I'd have serviced it before offering it for sale, as there could well be a big bill looming and that's a large chunk of their profit. Doing all the work, listing it, and upping the price, would have made sense IMO.
I'm not so sure. I appreciate it has been valeted etc. but there are bits which look too clean to be original, even if it hasn't been used.
Some of the passivated fittings look way too clean to be that old...even if it has sat in the dry. And the finish generally seems too good to be true for a car of that age.
Why is the tow eye cover missing - surely you would replace it and why is the condition of the front badge so at odds with the rest of the car?
I know I'm always the miserable git but I can't see why some things look like new and some don't. I'd understand it if it were a restoration but, unless I'm missing something, that's not what they are claiming.
Some of the passivated fittings look way too clean to be that old...even if it has sat in the dry. And the finish generally seems too good to be true for a car of that age.
Why is the tow eye cover missing - surely you would replace it and why is the condition of the front badge so at odds with the rest of the car?
I know I'm always the miserable git but I can't see why some things look like new and some don't. I'd understand it if it were a restoration but, unless I'm missing something, that's not what they are claiming.
Greg James
New member
It can be used you will just lose more money on it. I brought one a few years ago wit 13.5k on it, immaculate, F reg and did 4k straight off. The slave cylinder went and a big service and the best part of 2k later and the car is reliable as anything else.
If I was looking for a coupe I would buy it as has been said dreams are always worth it.
If I was looking for a coupe I would buy it as has been said dreams are always worth it.
ORIGINAL: Indi9xx
If someone was really sure they want a 944 S2 for life, that could well be the car for them.. Sod the museum, think of it as an opportunity to enjoy something which is not for sale, a factory fresh 944 S2.
Having said that, factory fresh, I would say it needs every rubber item on the car replacing, they might look good, but I doubt they will last very long with use.
Also, I am guilty of the "cant use it, its too nice" attitude, its why I sold my Black 968 CS and even why I think about selling my white turbo at times.. But having said that, I also do not ever buy new cars for the same reason, I would hate that new car smell, or its immaculate bits to every loose their luster, but thats me... But for someone, the right person, I think that motor would accumulate a lot of miles over the next 30 or 40 years, will gain a whole load of stone chips, but it will be their stone chips, it will probably still not depreciate over that time even with the extra miles, but someone will have put their miles on it, with their own service history and picked up their own stone chips.. Which I think would be really cool... Its not me though
What is really nice though, none of you are jumping up and down saying "A 944 S2 is only worth £XXXX, it may be nice, but no one will pay that"...
Well done, too many people in 944 forums have been in a rutt of recent years running down the value of their own model.. Which has probably held back the value of the 944 models in recent years.. The real thing is... No one buys a 944 now because its a cheap Porsche... That's an early Boxster..
People buy them because they want a 944, and probably have since the 944 was a current new car... Just as some people buy a 964 or 993 for the same reasons... And for that, the value of a good one, a really good one, is MANY times that of a crappy one.. Yeah, I think plenty of 944's are only worth £500 for a scrapper, or £3k for an unloved roadworthy project, but there are many shades of grey between that £3k car, and what could be a £15k or hell, even a £20k 944... The guy who was a kid with a 944 poster on his wall back in the 80's is not necessarily poorer than the guy who as a kid had a 964 poster... So a dream is a dream, and the dreams value is based on what the dreamer is happy to pay, not just what a lot of sellers are happy to accept!!
But well done, the 944 community might just have turned a corner from believing what some Porsche snobs would say about it being a poor mans Porsche, and actually seeing it as one of the best car's Porsche made... The Ferrari Dino world turned this corner about 15 years ago... Ferrari owners looked down on them, Dino owners undersold them, you could get a good one for £12k, now you need to add another zero to the price.
This ^
All of it... every word. The 944 is a dramatic looking beast, especially in early form. Too much excitement for ten year old me, and still sometimes a bit quivery at almost 40. Admittedly I'm a pervert and like beige ones... but a 944 is a thing of beauty. AND you can get the kids in the back... unlike a Boxster.
Greg James
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It's gone down 1k
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