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New 997 First impressions

What! No more manual Porsches? With good reason, for this has to be the greatest dual-clutch gearbox we've yet tried. The ratios are essentially the same as the manual's, with the exception of a longer third gear and a whacking great overdrive seventh to help hit those amazing eco figures.
The only real downside is Porsche's decision to go with an evolution of its rocker switch gear selectors on the steering wheel. Instead of the left-downchange, right-up paddle arrangement we've become accustomed to on almost every other semi-auto car in existence, you push the switch away to climb the gears, pull towards you to drop back down. You'll get used to it, but it's just not as intuitive as rival systems. Presumably PDK will spread to other 911 variants as the facelifted versions are rolled out?

Currently, only the coupe and cabrio versions of the two-wheel drive Carrera can have the £2338 PDK option, but it will be fitted to the Carrera 4 when that is launched later in 2008 and the facelifted Boxster in 2009. But a 325lb ft limit in its current state rules it out from duty in the Turbo, GT3 and GT3. They'll get PDK eventually, but it needs to be beefed up first.

So the current PDK can only handle up to 440Nm torque.

The stock Turbo has 620/680Nm (Normal/Sports-Overboost) and my car has over 800Nm with just a Stage II aftermarket kit on it.

I think it's going to take more than just tinkering to get 440Nm over 800Nm!!
 
Porsche does it again.. Hate that steering wheel though. Chris Chilton's comments about buttons intead of a flappy paddle shift rings true. I like paddles, hate buttons to change gear. A slip of the finger and instead of 4th gear, you get Jeremy Vine, or worse, you've accidentally taken a call from the wife's mother.
 
I agree, but I'm sure the aftermarket people will make a killing on an upgrade to normal style paddles kit for it..

garyw
 
I actually think the Tiptronic change works well in that you have access to both up and down at all times without any trouble, and no doubt which flap is which if the wheel is not straight (e.g. BMW). By changing it as they have done it sounds (got to try it and see) like an intuitive improvement over the existing functionality but maybe still not ideal.
I wouldn't order a multi-function steering wheel - the risk of getting Jeremy Vine is not something that I appreciate when driving, although the revised functionality would appear on paper to make this risk less than with the existing multi-function wheel.

I suppose since it's a facelift they have only fiddled with the plug-in bits, rather than changes which would involve surgery. Head-up display, would be useful for example.
 
I am fairly happy with the existing Tiptronic buttons as I first had them on my 996 C4S. I was pleased that I was able to retain them on my 997 Turbo plus get a small improvement in acceleration.

Best of all was the gear lever Tiptronic that I experienced briefly on the 968

Tried out a Mazerati GT a couple of weeks age and managed to change up instead of down with the up one side and down the other paddles but no doubt its what you get used to. It is handy to be able to change both up and down from both sides of the wheel.

I am pleased with the multi function steering wheel, great for the Sat nav and a bargain at £40.00!

Who is Jeremy Vine?
 
i agree that the tip works fine-on the m3 i kept changing in the wrong direction when the steering wheel was 180deg round-sometimes very embarassing!!no such prob with the tip.and the new one looks excellent
 
Static paddle sticks can be awkward, but those that rotate with wheel are better than buttons IMHO. Driven a few cars thus equipped and it feels more natural to flick with middle finder than hunt for a button to press. Admittedly this all tiny detail stuff and wouldn't / won't put me off buying a 997. Back to my original comment, I do think that wheel looks a bit ugly, all chunky and sprouting buttons. Just hanker after the clean simple lines of what I used to have on Porsches past...

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It all sounds very good, tempting even, but I just hope that they can fit the PDK to the TT by the time the facelift version arrives. That would really be something to look forward to.
 
all chunky and sprouting buttons. Just hanker after the clean simple lines of what I used to have on Porsches past...


personally i like thick sports steering wheel!

however nothing beats the old wooden nardi(imo)

aaahhhhh!!
 
ORIGINAL: tallmat
Just hanker after the clean simple lines of what I used to have on Porsches past...

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[:eek:][:eek:][:eek:] You'll kill someone with that... and give the EU health and safety a dicky fit [;)]

garyw
 
Best link I have seen on the facelift thus far, with embedded videos

http://viewer.zmags.com/showmag.php?mid=grdfp&preview=1&_x=1#/page2/
 
Certainly more depth of info. than have seen elsewhere - for some unknown reason the videos are not running for me but no usual errors re. version compatibility etc. - any pointers appreciated.

There is reference to Porsche's official documentation - haven't come across anything on the main Porsche site or the sub-section "Inner strength" ... Maybe am missing something obvious and would be grateful for link.

Thanks
 
ORIGINAL: Alex L

Best link I have seen on the facelift thus far, with embedded videos

http://viewer.zmags.com/showmag.php?mid=grdfp&preview=1&_x=1#/page2/

Yes, looks great. Maybe I should go for cream white. [:)] Aqua blue is lighter and brighter than Cobalt.

I had a long chat yesteday with those who have driven the car: apparantly the 18" wheels look better in the flesh, the C2 is brilliant and may be the one to buy, PDK is essential. Seat ventilation (with heating) is £1031.00. C2 with similar spec to C2S (apart from engine and a few ali bits) is over £4.5K less and much cheaper to run. Moreover, the performance is not much different (similar to the present 997S). All will be revealed at Silverstone.
 
ORIGINAL: J

There is reference to Porsche's official documentation - haven't come across anything on the main Porsche site or the sub-section "Inner strength" ... Maybe am missing something obvious and would be grateful for link.

Thanks

The offiicial information is the full press briefing pack, it's on the Drivers Revloution website.
 

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