New 997 First impressions

[Dylan1]

very interesting derek-my thinking exactly!!pdk on a 345 bhp c2 with a few extra bits -perhaps you can persuade linda over a few jars in north wales next weekend[]

 

[dereksharpuk]

Well I have a very convincing argument...It will save you money. Infact you would be a fool not to buy one []

Seriously, the C2 engine is a lot lighter than the CS2... Porsche wanted to get under the emission limit and in doing so made the engine much lighter. Hence better fuel economy, lower insurance and less road fund licence. If you analyse the performance figures there is little in it and are you really brave enough to drive faster than 180 mph? Additionally, those who have driven C2 Gen 2 tell me the new brakes are fantastic.

 

[Dylan1]

i feel an urgent test drive early july coming on[]

 

[mex99]

Guys,

You will all be welcome to see mine when it arrives, I've gone for the S as it will be so quick, the argument for a non S is convincing and likely cheaper but I figure I can't take it with me. As I've said before I have got PDK, Sport PASM with -20mm and diff lock and SC plus so Launch control etc. It will be nothing short of stunning!! If I could find £5K more I'd add the PCCB but I'm up to my wife enforced limit!!

I am at Silverstone on 14th July driving and will have the car 1st Sept. So excited!!!

 

[Dylan1]

sounds great darren-i can feel your excitement from here!![]

enjoy the anticipation!

 

[yan]

ORIGINAL: porky997

The offiicial information is the full press briefing pack, it's on the Drivers Revloution website.

HELP!

Where's the Drivers Revolution website?

Tried a search within porsche.com (typed revolution, no luck), have perused microsite. Is their a direct link ?

Am looking for technical information like gear ratios, shift times for PDK...

 

[johnag007]

www.drivers-republic.com/
By far the best thing on cars I have found, well done to whoever came up with it.

JAG

 

[garyw]

Its the former writers from EVO..

garyw

 

[InnerSphere]

ORIGINAL: garyw

Its the former writers from EVO..

garyw

And Chris Harris from Autocar

 

[adrian996]

I wouldn't order a multi-function steering wheel - the risk of getting Jeremy Vine is not something that I appreciate when driving, although the revised functionality would appear on paper to make this risk less than with the existing multi-function wheel.

Has the existing multi-function steering wheel not gone down too well then? (Thinking of up grading to 997 and was looking for one with multi-function wheel).

 

[yan]

A personal preference in conjunction with Tiptronic with a view to keeping things simple: on the Tiptronic multi-fn that the buttons are close together and narrower than standard wheel I wouldn't surprise myself if I caught the wrong button from time-to-time - there are times when I'd rather avoid the mistake... If the gear changes were via paddles (or ordering a manual) I might think differently.

I also preferred the look of the standard wheel.

 

[sawood12]

ORIGINAL: Alex L

What! No more manual Porsches? With good reason, for this has to be the greatest dual-clutch gearbox we've yet tried. The ratios are essentially the same as the manual's, with the exception of a longer third gear and a whacking great overdrive seventh to help hit those amazing eco figures.
The only real downside is Porsche's decision to go with an evolution of its rocker switch gear selectors on the steering wheel. Instead of the left-downchange, right-up paddle arrangement we've become accustomed to on almost every other semi-auto car in existence, you push the switch away to climb the gears, pull towards you to drop back down. You'll get used to it, but it's just not as intuitive as rival systems. Presumably PDK will spread to other 911 variants as the facelifted versions are rolled out?

Currently, only the coupe and cabrio versions of the two-wheel drive Carrera can have the £2338 PDK option, but it will be fitted to the Carrera 4 when that is launched later in 2008 and the facelifted Boxster in 2009. But a 325lb ft limit in its current state rules it out from duty in the Turbo, GT3 and GT3. They'll get PDK eventually, but it needs to be beefed up first.

So the current PDK can only handle up to 440Nm torque.

The stock Turbo has 620/680Nm (Normal/Sports-Overboost) and my car has over 800Nm with just a Stage II aftermarket kit on it.

I think it's going to take more than just tinkering to get 440Nm over 800Nm!!

Well the Bugatti Veyron has a PDK/DSG box so it is technically possible. It's probably more of a case of how can they achieve it in a cost effective way as the Veyron was hardly a money maker!

I must say it looks fantastic. How much can you get for a healthy kidney these days? It certanly does/should silence some of those 911 critics who say the 911 platform cannot be further developed.

 

[garyw]

ORIGINAL: sawood12
Well the Bugatti Veyron has a PDK/DSG box so it is technically possible. .

But not for the cost, size and weight for a 911 [] but Yes technically its do-able
I did read the cost of the box for the Veyron, similar to a Boxster if I remember correctly..!! as in the complete car, not just the Boxster gearbox []

garyw

 

[Alex L]

ORIGINAL: garyw

ORIGINAL: sawood12
Well the Bugatti Veyron has a PDK/DSG box so it is technically possible. .

But not for the cost, size and weight for a 911 [] but Yes technically its do-able
I did read the cost of the box for the Veyron, similar to a Boxster if I remember correctly..!! as in the complete car, not just the Boxster gearbox []

garyw

Crash over on Rennteam mentioned that the Veyron DSG box cost as much as a 997 Carrera and weighed as much as a V10 engine! I think he was exaggerating but still makes the point.