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Hoots mon! David.

I'm looking forward to the comparison with my various Caymans. It'll be an objective appraisal, and definitely not intended as merely an advert for the Alpine A110.

Brian

 
Brian_Innes said:
Hoots mon! David.

I'm looking forward to the comparison with my various Caymans. It'll be an objective appraisal, and definitely not intended as merely an advert for the Alpine A110.

Brian
I too will look forward to hearing about your ownership and assessment of the Alpine. I’m sure it will be both interesting and informative. Hope your car comes soon.

just one thing- where will you write about it? will you start a new thread on this forum?

 
Graham,

I checked with John CRS before committing to this idea on the Cayman section. I have a short licence approval for a few weeks commencing October 1st.

I have a holiday planned to Derbyshire and Cheshire in late October, and my comparative impressions with A110 as opposed to the Cayman on tour will be appraised during that trip. I'll also be at the Oulton Park PCGB track day in October to meet up with my track day pals and possibly cadge a few passenger laps if they are going.

I'll not overstay my time on the Cayman section as an A110 interloper. Over the years this particular forum section has been one of the most rewarding experiences of my life, having made made many friends here. I'll not do anything to jeopardise that.

Brian

 
Although I can only speak for myself, I would say you’ve earned the right to be on this forum as long as you want Brian. I’m sure that most people would enjoy and welcome hearing honest and insightful reflections on a Cayman alternative, the comparison I’m sure will be illuminating. As you say, you’ve made many friends here, and as a friend you’ll always be welcome.

I shall very much look forward to seeing you at Oulton Park.

 
I totally agree with Graham (“Wollemi”). There’ll be even less of interest here if you stop contributing.

 
Wollemi said:
Although I can only speak for myself, I would say you’ve earned the right to be on this forum as long as you want Brian. I’m sure that most people would enjoy and welcome hearing honest and insightful reflections on a Cayman alternative, the comparison I’m sure will be illuminating.

As you say, you’ve made many friends here, and as a friend you’ll always be welcome.

pp AndrewT - I totally agree with Graham (“Wollemi”). There’ll be even less of interest here if you stop contributing.

Second these ... stay with us Brian [:D]

 
Here, here Brian! As a long-standing contributor to this forum like yourself I’m very much looking forward to hearing about your future exploits, and in particular your impressions of the Alpine compared with the Cayman, of which you’ve had a wealth of experience in various guises on road and track.

Best wishes on your new journey, and please don’t be a stranger to us on this forum.

Jeff

 
I have to say that if the Lotus was 6 inches narrower I'd probably be all over it like a rash, (I have Lotus 'previous' having owned 4 in the past), but as it isn't I'll happily stick with my Cayman.

 
I get my private viewing tomorrow, harrys garges vid was great, such a better car to drive than a modern Cayman.

 
MrDemon said:
.. such a better car to drive than a modern Cayman.

When did you get to drive it then?

The only one I've seen was the display model which just had an electric motor to manoeuvre it around the showroom.

Regards,

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MrDemon said:
I get my private viewing tomorrow, harrys garges vid was great, such a better car to drive than a modern Cayman.

Very interesting David.....

I would also associate the Alpine A110 Legende GT with your closing statement.

The Lotus Emira is not excluded from my interests...never say never I say.

Meantime my impressions of the A110 compared to my Cayman experiences are reported elsewhere on the Cayman forum section.

Brian

 
Sadly I was not that impressed with the event or the car :-( event was poor, the car was a pre production model where you cannot close the doors, I stayed 30 mins and left. Might even get my deposit back. Evora in a dress and the cars a tad too wide imo, inside still felt low rent, and I have zero confidence that Lotus and the network can support sales and these cars. one of the worse car launch events I have been too if not THE WORST.

As for the poster above stating " When did you get to drive it then?"

I have driven the lastest Evora and it's a better driving machine than a Cayman, was just too expensive and even more low rent sadly where every car you see has parts falling off and that's not even made up. I guess it will drive totally the same as the outgoing Evora with the same, sus, wheelbase and engine, gearing, shift, steering etc etc might even be a bit worst as less power and more weight. Total shame really, but they will make you look when you see them on the road. Real shame Porsche did not fit a new gearbox to the 4.0 GTS Cayman :-( other wise I would be in a 4.0 GTS.

2 very close cars to being great but both sadly lacking, I did have a nice chat to an ex Lotus driver, who switched to a A110 so it seems that's where people have been going.

it will drive well for sure, but it's not my future daily :-( rather buy a Cayman R and some trick bits to be honest. So hard to beat a Cayman R for £50k

 
David,

A very interesting post, and your comments regarding a former Lotus owner/driver switching to an Alpine A110 struck a chord with me. The A110 is really a Lotus under the skin, but with more cabin refinement than either the Elise and Exige models, but below Cayman standards of fit and finish. The Emira looks to me like a direct competitor to the A110 Legende GT, of which reliability is already proven.

As a former owner, I also agree with your comments on the Cayman R. (carbon bucket seats and manual gearbox essential basics).

For your interest, the final verdict on the A110 compared to my Cayman experiences will follow soon. See my thread elsewhere on the Cayman section of the forum.

Lotus have a mountain to climb in convincing potential customers that build quality control and reliability are meeting the exacting expectations of current premium sports coupe owners.

The press reviews should be interesting whenever production models come on stream.

Brian

 
I really want the Emira to be a great car. All the ingredients sound right, but I am still plagued with my memory of the build quality of my old Esprit. I’m hoping things will have moved on considerably with Geeley’s influence.

I’ll be waiting eagerly to see what the press have to say about the AMG powered car before entertaining the idea of owning one.

 
I was booked to view the car at the Silverstone dealership earlier this week but had to cancel … maybe just as well!

Until you can see a full production example it’s a bit unfair to form an exact opinion but it’s disappointing that Lotus chose to show a really unrepresentative car. No doubt they’re keen to get something out there for potential customers to view but, as D notes, it can backfire.

Like Brian I was aware that the Alpine A110 was based upon an earlier unfulfilled Lotus development and it’s interesting to note that the two companies are to co-develop a new electric sports car:

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/alpine-and-lotus-co-develop-new-electric-sports-car

Jeff

 
Lotus and Alpine share DNA by the well proven mantra of lightness and chassis agility. I'm not sure how this long-standing concept will marry with an all electric sports coupé while carrying heavy batteries within its relatively short wheelbase.

During my recent test drive of the Taycan 4S, albeit brief, the heavy weight of the thing was all too apparent, although performance was astonishing, in a straight line.

As with my 13 months ownership experience of the Macan Turbo, which was less than satisfying to drive on winding Highland roads, I would wager that an all electric sports car of the chassis platform dimensions of the current Alpine A110, or for that matter the new Emira, will sacrifice much of the driving pleasure as derived from agility and lightness. In my opinion, the keen driver will stick with the piston engined variety for many years to come. There is also the question of the evocative acoustics associated with an ICE powered sports car when combined with a close ratio gearbox. Artificially created electronic acoustics already prevalent on some EV's will not reproduce that same sensation for many keen drivers in my opinion.

Brian

 

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