New Porsche PCCM

[Rodney Naghar]

Very helpful post!
Sounds like it would be easier and less painful to pay the artists to sing for you down the phone rather than do all that!

 

[rogertill]

Very helpful post!
Sounds like it would be easier and less painful to pay the artists to sing for you down the phone rather than do all that!

Think I may have to sing down the phone to somebody

 

[BC997S]

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Do you know anyone who could get your music on to your phone so you can play the tracks from it instead? It’s what CarPlay/Android was made and so easy to navigate once it’s done. You’ll never look back….

 

[Rodney Naghar]

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Do you know anyone who could get your music on to your phone so you can play the tracks from it instead? It’s what CarPlay/Android was made and so easy to navigate once it’s done. You’ll never look back….

This has to be the best option.
If you have an iPhone you can just ’drag’ all the files from your card to ITunes and then sync your phone. 100 x easier than following the process above.

 

[rogertill]

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Do you know anyone who could get your music on to your phone so you can play the tracks from it instead? It’s what CarPlay/Android was made and so easy to navigate once it’s done. You’ll never look back….

This has to be the best option.
If you have an iPhone you can just ’drag’ all the files from your card to ITunes and then sync your phone. 100 x easier than following the process above.

Thanks for the information. Sounds simple now I have to find out how to do it. Just spoken to a lady who is a Personal Case Manager from the Porsche Customer Interaction Centre. She has raised a job number and is in contact with Porsche Classic UK. I want to keep the new system but I would like Porsche to sort out the issue. One reason I purchased the new PCCM was its claimed ability to play music from a USB stick. If I have to download all my music onto my phone, although a solution, it is not what I expected.

 

[rogertill]

For those who want to use i phone this is what I did.
1. Downloaded i Tunes on my computer.
2. Added a folder to my library i Tune library. The folder was all my music stored in a single folder on my computer C drive.
3. I then connected my i phone to the computer.
4. I then had to synchronise the phone with the i Tune on the computer.
5.The mobiole phone then shows up on the i tune library screen on the computer.
6. You can then drag either a single tune or each album from your computer i tune library onto your mobile phone.
7. If you open the music icon on your i phone you can then see all the albums/ tunes you have transfered.
8. Connect the phone to USB port in the car and select apple carplay.
9 Select the music icon and then on you phone you select what to play and it will play.

I must admit it was not difficult to work out how to do it but I would much prefer it if the car loaded albums from a memory stick and you could just use the screen or the knobs to find the music you want to play. When I loaded all my music on my i phone it took up almost 100GB of memory.

 

[BC997S]

For those who want to use i phone this is what I did.
1. Downloaded i Tunes on my computer.
2. Added a folder to my library i Tune library. The folder was all my music stored in a single folder on my computer C drive.
3. I then connected my i phone to the computer.
4. I then had to synchronise the phone with the i Tune on the computer.
5.The mobiole phone then shows up on the i tune library screen on the computer.
6. You can then drag either a single tune or each album from your computer i tune library onto your mobile phone.
7. If you open the music icon on your i phone you can then see all the albums/ tunes you have transfered.
8. Connect the phone to USB port in the car and select apple carplay.
9 Select the music icon and then on you phone you select what to play and it will play.

I must admit it was not difficult to work out how to do it but I would much prefer it if the car loaded albums from a memory stick and you could just use the screen or the knobs to find the music you want to play. When I loaded all my music on my i phone it took up almost 100GB of memory.

Mobiles are so integral to everyday life now and the way they can now integrate with a car built before the iPhone even existed is something to take advantage of. I’m sure you’ll soon forget about using a separate memory stick when the same media already exists on your phone.


Glad you got sorted. ??

 

[rogertill]

Spent some of the morning with the Porsche engineer who fitted the PCCM. We were testing all options to play music. We tried 64GB,32GB,16Gb sticks from different manufactures and also different formating. With the best option, Cruzer 32GB using the FAT32 protocol, loading was slow and about 5% of the music would not load. We then moved on to applecar play using the same files on the memory stick. All would play. However, two problems. With my i phone 14 promax where to store it so it doesn't get in the way of the gear selector. Also you select an albulm and you can change the tracks on the PCCM. However, if you want to change albums you have to pick up the mobile phone to select a new album to play. If you do that when you are driving you are breaking the law. So we both came to the conclusion that neither solution is ideal and it is not consistent with the promotion and information from Porsche. He will speak to his superior and they will send a report to Porsche UK. We are not sure what the outcome is going to be. It is doubtful if the unit can be upgraded. So if my selected music is important to me then they would have to put the old systems back in place. But then I would loose the better radio functions, telephone functions and SatNav. I am going to wait to see what options Porsche come up with but I am not holding my breath.

 

[rogertill]

I must firstly state for legal reasons these are my opinions only, although I have the evidence to back it up. 17 years ago when the car was new it came with the original PCCM and all 209 pages of instructions. To make it simpler to use my car had a Dension Gateway 500 and a Parrot CK 3000 evolution fitted. Move forward to the new PCCM plus( 54 pages of instructions online) now fitted in the car. In many areas it is far superior to the old system except one major flaw; playing music. Before I discuss the issues let me clarify one point. On the American forum Rennlist views are polarised and can get quite abusive. CD/USB stick vs Mobile phone. Get real if your an old dog and try and learn the new technology. Dispose CD, tapes, LPs and stream. This misses the point. Let me use an analogy. There is a specific opera and singer I love to hear. There is a concert in La scala Millano; how to get there? Car, train, plane, boat or a mixture. We all have our musical tastes and if you are like me they change with my mood. How can I do this in my car(not changing my mood). There are two ways, USB stick, mobile phone or a mixture of both. With the stick it is partial and the phone it is probable. Let me explain. With the stick no matter what we have tried only about 95% of the music will play in the Porsche compared with 100% on my old system in the car, my computer and my new BMW. On the phone I can upload 100% but the sound coming out of the unconnected phone is not good. OK connect to the PCCM and now two issues arise. Where do I store the phone so it or the cable doesn't get in the way of the gear lever. The second issue is I can control a selected album on the PCCM but if I want to change the album I have to use the phone. Now if I try and use a hand held phone whilst driving it is illegal. So you have to stop the car. There are two other options, put the phone in a phone holder and attach it where? Of course if you have a passenger that person could legally change the music.
These issues should have been resolved in the development process pre launch. It doesn't give me confidence if I was considering an electric car from Porsche. My overall conclusion: This is not good enough Porsche.

 

[Brisel]

Not much help here, but to mount your phone I can recommend a Brodit phone holder. I have used them in a couple of cars to stay legal on the road. This one is a universal and adjustable holder for phones in cases and originally came with a charger lead holder for an iPhone but I have swapped to a Samsung, so I unscrewed the charging lead bracket.

 

[rogertill]

Not much help here, but to mount your phone I can recommend a Brodit phone holder. I have used them in a couple of cars to stay legal on the road. This one is a universal and adjustable holder for phones in cases and originally came with a charger lead holder for an iPhone but I have swapped to a Samsung, so I unscrewed the charging lead bracket.

Thanks for the information. It is a real pitty we have to go down this route.

 

[BC997S]

Are you seeing this same display and the Music App displayed when you connect your phone? This where you’re albums and or artists are stored and they should all be few a taps on the screen to locate just as you would when using your phone with it‘s own speaker or headphones?

 

[rogertill]

Are you seeing this same display and the Music App displayed when you connect your phone? This where you’re albums and or artists are stored and they should all be few a taps on the screen to locate just as you would when using your phone with it‘s own speaker or headphones?

On my Phone, not connected, when I press the music app I can see a list on my albums. One touch on an album I can see the individual tracks and then you can shuffle, play in order or select whatever track you wish. Plug the phone into the PCCM+ you can get the screen as shown in your picture. However press the app and you get a complete list of all the tracks which you can scroll through either using the screen or the right control button. I have 3749 tracks to scroll through from 205 Albums. The only other screen display I can get is an individual track selector graphic with arrows showing start pause, back to the beginning of the track or move on to the next track. The Porsche engineer and I could not find a way of seeing a list on the albums without returning to the touch screen on the mobile phone.

 

[BC997S]

Hmm, that does seem odd as the whole point of CarPlay is to almost mirror your phone. Is your IOS software is fully up to date - that would remove one possible problem. I've not seen the Rennlist thread so I'm guessing all of those who've had installed are having the same issues of not being able to see the albums on the PCCM display? It would be a non starter for me if this is the case as I listen by album not tracks or shuffle play.

Be good to hear from anyone else who's having the same issues.

 

[rogertill]

Hmm, that does seem odd as the whole point of CarPlay is to almost mirror your phone. Is your IOS software is fully up to date - that would remove one possible problem. I've not seen the Rennlist thread so I'm guessing all of those who've had installed are having the same issues of not being able to see the albums on the PCCM display? It would be a non starter for me if this is the case as I listen by album not tracks or shuffle play.

Be good to hear from anyone else who's having the same issues.

Yes I have an i-phone 14 Promax( one month old) with the latest IOS. Think it is possible to stream on the new PCCM+ but I know the Americans are have problems if you want to select and play your own stored music. It would be interesting to hear if any other members have fitted the system and are having the same problems.

 

[rogertill]

I have one album which will not play on the PCCM+ system. It will play on my computer ( Windows 11 media), my 2020 BMW M135i and my old PCCM. Have tried different memory stick formats ( FAT:FAT32), different sizes 16,32,64GBs, different media formats MP3,WMA, FLAC with no luck. I loaded iTunes on to my computer but I cannot sync my i-phone( iphone 14 promax) and therefore cannot unload this piece of music onto the phone to play in apple carplay. I don’t want to pay for a steaming service, any ideas?

 

[Brisel]

Is it a Warner Bros label? Their encoding isn’t always digital friendly.

 

[rogertill]

Is it a Warner Bros label? Their encoding isn’t always digital friendly.

No it isn't a Warner Bros label. Interesting that the album will play in the BMW, on the computers and in the old PCCM dension system. I-tunes on Window11 won't sync with i-phone 14 promax, only 90%tunes play from the memory stick in PCCM+. I don't have an android phone but I would bet you could download from windows and play on the PCCM+.Looks like it is turf wars between companies.

 

[rogertill]

In the latest April Porsche Post the new PCCM+ devices cost is £1,3333. That is considerably less than prices quoted elsewere. Mine cost £1,850 fitted and that was at a discount. Anybody know what is going on with pricing?

 

[Brisel]

Friends Green Porsche have a YouTube video on the upgrade. Their prices look more favourable too, but swanky Porsche franchise showrooms will have higher overheads.

https://www.friendsgreenporsche.com/services/upgrades/