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I jointed this forum because I am interested in a 944 not sure which to go for probably either 2.5 turbo or the 3.0 S2. Quite interested in the Cab for sale on here but a bit worried about 5 years with no service history is this a problem? I have seen this on Clasic car what do you guys think?
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C117725/

Mick
 
Looks very tidy - not sure about the blue leather but hey horses for courses. Do D90's come in 17" I don't know. I have 16" D90's on mine but they look right. It says belts changed when required but not when. I would enquire when this was done and when it is due. Also no mention of timimg chain, which the 16V S2 engine has. I always say spend as much as you can on the car and at that money I would hope it would be fairly straight. If you are looking check the bottom of front wings for rust and under the stone guards on the side and rear sills for bubbling. 131K not a problem for this engine especially if seviced as good as he says. Even so it has been said many times I would put aside a budget of £1000 - 1500 for repairs or alterations in the first year of ownership. Good luck and welcome mate. Buy the right car and you won't regret it.
 
Car looks good, lowish miles, full OPC history, D90s were only available in 16 inch. 2 owners is also good. As Rob says, check for the cam chain, belts and water pump being done. If they havn't been done recently, a good haggling point as a full set of belts, rollers and a water pump is £400 for the parts alone!
Alasdair

 
looks nice - if you can live with blue dash / wheel

always a bit worrying when the seller doesn't know exactly what he has - 17" wheels for example...it also doesn't have the 10 speaker premium sound pack though (which is a nice option but I would guess not found on many S2's)
 
S2 definitely the one to have. Significantly more capable than the Turbo * and easier to drive too.

Search on here and you'll get a lot of good advice. But, broadly, buy on condition not age or milage, and buy something that either has been loved by a knowledgeable and capable enthusiast who has a good workshop and a pile of receipts for parts, or is owned by someone who has a large pile of cash and has spent a fair chunk of it on keeping the car maintained at a good indie (or an OPC if it's a seriously large pile of cash.)

Remember, nice people sell nice cars.

Good to have you on the forum. Keep us posted with how you get on.


Oli.

* - Ahem ... this point may be slightly up for debate. Someone called Nick (Appleton) will probably come along and laugh at me any minute, but don't believe a word he says. Do a search for previous posts of his to get a measure of the man ...
 
Thanks for the replies guys I think i fancy the later model with the 3 litre engine. I am in no rush just want a weekend toy. Anyone know of a gooden let me know. There was no mention of the cab advertised on here anyone know the car? what are cabs like? I quite like the way the back of the cab is compared to the standard..

Mick
 
ORIGINAL: zcacogp

S2 definitely the one to have. Significantly more capable than the Turbo * and easier to drive too.

Search on here and you'll get a lot of good advice. But, broadly, buy on condition not age or milage, and buy something that either has been loved by a knowledgeable and capable enthusiast who has a good workshop and a pile of receipts for parts, or is owned by someone who has a large pile of cash and has spent a fair chunk of it on keeping the car maintained at a good indie (or an OPC if it's a seriously large pile of cash.)

Remember, nice people sell nice cars.

Good to have you on the forum. Keep us posted with how you get on.


Oli.

* - Ahem ... this point may be slightly up for debate. Someone called Nick (Appleton) will probably come along and laugh at me any minute, but don't believe a word he says. Do a search for previous posts of his to get a measure of the man ...
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You called M'lud?![;)][:D]

Oh goody, another S2 vs turbo thread...!!![:D][:D][:D]

Erm, it's Christmas though, so....

...both great cars, one will entice you into selling your children and kidneys in order to further satisfy the tuning bug, whilst the other is a superbly balanced, refined and quick car with a more 'friendly' power delivery, especially in the current weather!

See Oli, I can be balanced, no matter how unhinged!



PSSST! BTW, TURBOS ARE REALLY MUCH, MUCH FASTER AND BETTER ALL ROUND THAN S2s, just in case Oli is watching...
 
Hi Nick

I must admit that is one area I do like it is tuning cars I probably like that as much as driving is the any scope in the S2

Mick
 
tbh the 944 is primarily about its fantastically balanced handling so ensuring that all suspension components are fresh or mildly uprated - fresh dampers and bushes will transform the handling of the car along with a good geometry session; mine had a slightly more aggressive geometry with some negative camber to reduce some of the understeer.

I think the opportunity to increase the power on the S2 is fairly limited, although a rechip can improve throttle response and may release 1 or 2 more horses.

Once you get the suspension set up correctly, I think you will fall in love with the handling balance of the car, whatever engine is under the bonnet.
 
Mick,

Just drive an S2. You'll then agree that it is perfect in every way and there is no need (indeed no possibility) of improvement ... [:D]

Or, as Nick is being all sensible and balanced, I'll follow suit ...

No, the S2 is largely regarded as untunable power-wise. The chassis potential is pretty much the same across the S2 and the Turbo (S2's had the same brakes and anti-roll-bars - ARB's - as early turbos. Later turbos got bigger brakes and thicker ARB's.) However the Turbo engine is a blank canvas for engine tuning, and there are a LOT of possiblities there. I know nothing about it, not owning one, but the chaps on here with Turbo's will happily talk you through the options. The S2 is a normally aspirated unit, and while you can chip it for a slight increase in power, there's not a lot left on the table (without spending BIG money, which would be better put into a turbo in the first place.)

I've never driven a turbo, but the general consensus is that the standard S2 is better than the standard turbo. However, spend a couple of grand on the turbo and the story changes shape somewhat.


Oli.
 

ORIGINAL: appletonn
Once you get the suspension set up correctly, I think you will fall in love with the handling balance of the car, whatever engine is under the bonnet.
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Now that I will wholeheartedly agree with.


Oli.
 
Dont suppose anyone lives in Reading S2 cab here looks a bit on the cheap side
http://www.fmcars.co.uk/26910/stocklist.htm


Mick
 
Hi and welcome. Would concur with all thats been said already. Would simply add that while the Cab looks great (I really would like a nice S2 example but don't tell Oli) they are heavier than the coupe and will have a certain amount of the dreaded scuttle shake so wont be quite as quick and nimble as the examples with the roof still in place as nature intended.

P.S. As its Christmas I will simply overlook the unfortunate apostrophe incident above. [;)]
 
That Reading cab is on the cheap side so would need careful looking over (as do all 944's in truth). That said its hardly the time of year or type of weather to be selling a soft top, so that may be having some bearing on the asking price.
 
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