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NineMeister Supercharger for your S2

Diver944

Diver944

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For those S2 owners who would like a little boost you might be interested to know the NineMeister is auctioning off one of his original 350bhp kits that has been fitted for a few years but the owner has now upgraded to the latest generation 480bhp kit:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/A-314-Procharger-super-charger-kit-for-Porsche-968-944_W0QQitemZ270167448072QQihZ017QQcategoryZ10408QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I would be incredibly interested for our S2 if I hadn't blown all my cash getting LIL repaired [8|] This kit was circa £5k fitted and there is a thread in the 968 section of Rennlist describing how it had been on a track car for over two years before the original customer has gone even further.
 
Oh, that could be fun[:)][:)][:)][:)][:)]

I have driven a 968 with this kit fitted and it is great fun, and every now and again I think it
would be fun on the S2, I am unaware of a kit being fitted to an S2, does anyone know of it having
been done?
 
They had a write up about it in 911 & porsche world some one had fitted 968 engine and gearbox into a 944 S2 and then Supercharged it
 
Yes that is true. BUT it wasnt fitted with a s2 engine, as you correctly pointed out...
The 968 engine is apparently easier to tune, as is fitted with a MAF + not a "barn door" air flow meter...
Yes i have "tentatively" looked into this...+ concluded that i have enough power to get me into trouble "on track" , [ if ide had an extra 100bhp the car would poss now be totaled] + the fact that its lots of money to get another 100bhp or so....I have "so far" decided against this....
Happy dayz....[:D][:D]
 
I agree that the full price kit itself is a lot of money that 99% of 944 owners would not want to spend on their car, however if this Ebay one goes for under £1500 I think it will be a bargain.

Also there are a couple of MAF's designed for S2 now on the market which would really free up the intake at a later date.
 
That's a bargain! - they only want £1450 for it

If it's going on any 944, my money's on Peter [;)] (and he already has a MAF)
 
ORIGINAL: edh

That's a bargain! - they only want £1450 for it

If it's going on any 944, my money's on Peter [;)] (and he already has a MAF)
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Lol! Well I'll certianly be keeping an eye on this one. It'll be a struggle to justify it at the moment as I'm finally getting ready to get the bodywork done. But common sense rarely gets in the way [;)] I'll be fitting a rather spacious front end at the same time which incidentally will have plenty of room for extra cooling and an intercooler too.[:D]
Oh and for anyone else looking, its current price of £850 is well over the top for a few pipes and odds and ends, so best not to bother bidding on it [;)]
 
[:)] I hope I haven't spoiled anyone's day, but this is now sold.[:D]
Whilst I don't normally like making offers on running auctions I mulled it over and thought this was too good to let get away.

If I receive it in time I'll bring it along to the Ace so you can all tell me how silly I've been [:)] (and more importantly so I can pick your brains and work out what else I need to buy).

My plan is to initially install it with low boost in mind (to give say +40bhp) and then develop it from there once we've sorted any bugs, and then only considering bigger boost when the bottom end is built for it. Please don't expect any instant results however as it may be a while before I'm ready to fit it.
 
I knew you couldn't resist it [;)] It looked like a pretty good deal to me.

Even 40bhp will make a difference, but the extra low/mid torque will make it seem like a different car [:D]
 
Lol! Well I'm nothing if not predictable!
I have to admit I'm so happy with my car as a package at the moment that I can't help wondering if this is going to unbalance things a little, but we'll see. Every step I take I think I get closer to finishing the car and then realise I've just made it worse by opening up more possibilities.
 
I knew if I posted it you couldn't resist and thereby it removed temptation from me [:D]

If I understood it correctly it's the 6psi version so should be more than happy with your standard compression engine. Your MAF may complicate matters a little but I reckon the Ninemeister could remap it or even approach Wayne Schofield directly.

There is a thread on the 968 section of Rennlist at the moment from Ninemeister all about his current superchargers which should prove useful for you
 
Hi Paul, yes it's all your fault [;)] Seriously, thanks for the heads up as I think I would have missed it otherwise.

I don't know exactly what the pulley size is (9M didn't have the figures to hand when I called) so will have to work it out, but it should be quite easy to get something suitable machined up if it is a bit too extreme. 6psi would be great however [:D]

I'm not sure what to do about engine management, there are so many options available. Wayne writing a chip is certainly an easy option (assuming I can ever get him to pick up his phone!), but I will also look at the other options too which I guess includes the Vitesse piggyback, Maxtronic or just biting the bullet and going for stand alone.

Other than that I think I just need some suitable monitoring for Intake and EGT's (not sure if these are really necessary), A/F, and boost. I guess a different shaped air filter will be required too. I am wondering if I need to look at fuel pumps or regulators. I've got an awful lot to learn!

I'll go and have a look at that thread you mentioned now.
 
It might be worth an email to Russel Berry who makes the Maxtronic as he is the US distributor for the scivision MAF that you have and I bet he'd be very keen to help out (another feather on his bow etc). His 'semi-standalone' looks very similar to the Vitesse piggyback and with the right monitoring/logging you would be able to change the fuelling yourself. The beauty is he already has a product for the Scivision so it would just need a bit of tailoring for the more linear delivery of the supercharger as opposed to the turbo.

You swine [;)]
 
Well done Peter ! - I was wondering what had happened on the auction as I'd been watching it and was going to dive in at the last minute and snipe it! Look forward to seeing it in action.
While we are on this subject can someone explain the difference between supercharging and turbos ?
Regards
Andy

 
Hi Andy,
Sorry about that [:)]

I don't profess to be an expert by any means, but if I've understood your question correctly - a turbo is driven from the exhaust gases whereas a super charger is fed off the crank. The plusses with a supercharger is that there isn't lag caused while the gas pressure builds up and the temperatures tend to be lower, the downside is its not as efficient as it takes power from the engine to drive it in the first place. As I generally prefer the power delivery from a NA engine, a supercharger seemed the logical choise for me, so it'll be interesting to see how it works out. I'm sure you'll see it all in progress at RPM in the near future [;)]
 
No Problem Peter with the ££££s spent already you probably did me a favour !
Are RPM fitting it for you ? As mine is due back over there again soon to have the engine bay cleaned after the fire. I also seem to have an intermittent problem with power delivery aswell, which is driving me mad and typically it never happens when its over in the farm yard !

 
Yep, the hardware will be done by Ollie (he always seemed keen when we discussed supercharging previously, I'll soon sort that out!).
Sorry to hear of your problem, I guess you've tried the DME first?
Best regards,
Peter
 
ORIGINAL: Peter Empson

Hi Andy,
Sorry about that [:)]

I don't profess to be an expert by any means, but if I've understood your question correctly - a turbo is driven from the exhaust gases whereas a super charger is fed off the crank. The plusses with a supercharger is that there isn't lag caused while the gas pressure builds up and the temperatures tend to be lower, the downside is its not as efficient as it takes power from the engine to drive it in the first place. As I generally prefer the power delivery from a NA engine, a supercharger seemed the logical choise for me, so it'll be interesting to see how it works out. I'm sure you'll see it all in progress at RPM in the near future [;)]
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The supercharger on the Mercedes Maclaren needs 125bhp to run it therefore your 500bhp engine has to actually develop 625bhp!

It will be interesting to see how you get on. I've wondered about increasing compression ratio on blown engines to give you better drivability. There must be a trade-off between increasing compression ratio and decreasing boost pressure where you get the best of both worlds in terms of the shape of your torque and power curve.

Good stuff Peter - i'll be amongst those who will be watching with great interest.
 
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