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Non-starting 944 Turbo - any pointers?

Another silly almost stupid fault I recently experienced with my wife's 924S which had been running fine all week ,she switched it off outside a house to post keys through the door,then would start but kept cutting out turned out to be the fuel pump fuse -the fuse metal strip had developed a microscopic split which stopped the pump running although enough contact to start .
 
blade7 said:
scam75 said:
blade7 said:
Did you have to uprate the wiring ?

No. Pretty much plug n play.

Stuart


Thanks. Just a thought, have you checked the cables aren't getting hot after it's been running a while ?


No I haven't. It was sold to me as a direct uprated replacement, as an equivalent in terms of performance of a Bosch 044 pump possibly (!), which would not require any wiring alterations either AFAIK.

Stuart
 
Uprating the wiring is recommended for Bosch 044 pumps, may be an idea to check your wiring.
 
My turbo had those symptoms a while back, turned out to be the distributor cap, I was considering the fuel pump after exhausting what I thought was everything else, no it was the distributor.
BTW you do not have to remove the bell housing to remove the flywheel sensors as I also did this when searching for the fault.





 
scam75 said:
blade7 said:
Uprating the wiring is recommended for Bosch 044 pumps, may be an idea to check your wiring.


I wasn't aware of that. Will do.

Stuart


May be interested in the same fuel pump in the future, let me know what you find.
 
I run the 9XX fuel pump from JMG with 55lb injectors. You can get away with standard with these injectors but it is a good upgrade and good future proofing. There was never any mention of upgrading wiring. It runs on the same size fuse so don't see why a wiring upgrade would be necessary?
 
O.k. My trusty old 944 S2 was running absolutely fine and dandy it had just been MOT tested and the garage rang to say I could collect it. I duly settled the bill got in the drivers seat switched off the immobiliser turned the key the dash lights all lit up as normal I turned the key further in order to engage the starter motor and ...........nothing[:mad:]. This had never happened before in fact with the new battery and new starter motor I had fitted several months prior to this my car was an excellent starter. It had only just been started moved and parked up without any signs of trouble a few minutes before my arrival. Two months later the car is still at the garage with the same fault. There seems to be no apparent reason why this should be. If anyone has any bright ideas or suggestions as to how we can get it running again I would be very pleased to hear from them.

I already have a gallon of petrol and a match waiting.......... just in case!

Thanks and regards.

Zeusy
 
Sounds like 100% the immobiliser. All immobilisers must to be certified act on the cranking circuit. I suspect like most garages yours are either scared or don't understand electrics. I would find all the immobiliser wires and remove them and make good. If you are not 100% with electrics then you are better off removing it, or getting another installed by a verified vehicle spark that most importantly you trust.
 
robwright said:
I run the 9XX fuel pump from JMG with 55lb injectors. You can get away with standard with these injectors but it is a good upgrade and good future proofing. There was never any mention of upgrading wiring. It runs on the same size fuse so don't see why a wiring upgrade would be necessary?


What model is the 9XX pump ? I said I'd read some people uprate the cable on the Bosch 044, perhaps on other pumps it's not necessary.
A few years ago my household immersion tank was replaced but hadn't yet been wired up, needed some hot water fast so I did a temp connection with an extension lead to a wall socket, the 13a fuse didn't blow but the cable got hot pretty quick.
 
blade7 said:
Did you have to uprate the wiring ?
There was some modification to wiring and vacuum hoses to fit the Augment gear but I didn't do it. Was all left to Tom at Augment.
I splashed out and bought a new fuel pump from Euro Car Parts. Bosch item. £112 inc VAT and shipping. Not fitted it yet but guess what....car is starting and running beautifully again!! May be it just don't like cold early morning like me.
 
Zeusy said:
O.k. My trusty old 944 S2 was running absolutely fine and dandy it had just been MOT tested and the garage rang to say I could collect it. I duly settled the bill got in the drivers seat switched off the immobiliser turned the key the dash lights all lit up as normal I turned the key further in order to engage the starter motor and ...........nothing[:mad:]. This had never happened before in fact with the new battery and new starter motor I had fitted several months prior to this my car was an excellent starter. It had only just been started moved and parked up without any signs of trouble a few minutes before my arrival. Two months later the car is still at the garage with the same fault. There seems to be no apparent reason why this should be. If anyone has any bright ideas or suggestions as to how we can get it running again I would be very pleased to hear from them.

Do the 3 wire jump on the DME relay socket and (carefully) a direct 12v jump to the starter and see if it fires up.

 
Evening all.
Thanks for the replies. The garage looking after my car is a well established independent specialising in classic cars ( the owner used to work at a Porsche dealership and knows his 944's). I am not technically minded and have difficulty wiring a 13 amp plug! However I do know an excellent local auto - electrician so perhaps its time to give him a call - surely there can't be too much amiss?
It may be a week or two but I will report back with any findings.
Regards - Zeusy.
 
My S2's none starting issue was eventually traced to a faulty distributor cap - the old tub fires up and runs perfectly now. Zeusy.
 
^^^^^What I posted a few posts back^^^^^
check the distributor cap internally, I had my car in a million bits looking for electrical faults, fuel pump, flywheel sensors etc.
Gave up and went back to basics, it was the distributior cap.
 
Hi m8. We had a look at all kinds of weird and wonderful things with electric wires attached and as you say it was only by going back to the beginning that the faulty distributor cap was found. The strange thing is it had not shown any signs of failing and in the space of a few minutes went from working fine to not working at all. I know its a trek but will you be coming down to Rutland?
 
I had a similar problem with the white Lux. Refused to start, pulled it to bits, even checked the belts. It produced a spark on a plug out of the engine but wouldn't run. Stuck a new cap and rotor and it was fine.
 
Ha ha Zeusy only clicked on to who you are,hope you are well !
Bought an S2 as a easy cosmetic project, still at the body shop for paint, hoping to have it back this week if I get it put back together then I may come down in it, bit of a haul, but I may stop over.
Any suggestions for digs appreciated from the locals.
Told you it was the bloody distributor cap, bill is in the post [:D]

 

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