Nurburgring

[Mark_Bennett]

There is lots and lots of information in the Club Track Day part of the forum
http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tt.asp?forumid=59

Look under the Circuit Reviews link at the top as well.

As well as the information there, you will find www.nurburgring.org has most of the information you need (and I would say that the site is required reading before going! [])

Have fun - drive safe []

 

[Guest]

ORIGINAL: Mark Bennett

As well as the information there, you will find www.nurburgring.org has most of the information you need (and I would say that the site is required reading before going! [])

I know a few people who go regularly, and the consensus is that Ben Lovejoy's site is definitely the place to go for all of the info you need for planning a trip. It will tell you where to stay, and even how to get there along the nicest roads.

There is also an email list for "Ringers" on Yahoogroups http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/nurburgringers/ where you will be able to get more information and help than you ever thought you might want []

Good luck, and enjoy.

James

 

[lali]

did thsi at the weekend. If you stick to teh speed limits it takes 7 hours of driving time from guilford to the ring. crossing was £122 and it was £120 in petrol for the trip there and back ( 1 full tank in a 968 each way ). Then it was down to about a gallon a lap in the 968, I imagine in the Imprezza it'll be about 3!.
But its always worth every penny!!!

 

[skendrick]

We'd thought the whole trip would be around the £500-600 mark and by the website and your comments it's sound about right.

What would be a target lap time for first timers? we've guessed around the 11-12minute mark with a passenger.

Any idea when the best time of year would be to go?

 

[oliverjamesthomas]

Do yourself a favour. DO NOT, repeat, DO NOT be looking at target lap times. IMHO, it's the easiest way to come back in a box. There is just too much to even begin to remember and believe me, you will think the next turn over the blind crest is a left when, in fact, it's a right. Go, enjoy it for what it is, come back safe and afford yourself the opportunity of going again!

Enjoy!

Regards

 

[Mark_Bennett]

Forget all thoughts about timing your laps - especially the first visit. You won't even get to know which way the corners go for many many laps. You don't need to be pressuring yourselves with times.

Seriously.

 

[Guest]

ORIGINAL: skendrick

What would be a target lap time for first timers? we've guessed around the 11-12minute mark with a passenger.

Any idea when the best time of year would be to go?

Try and do it in less than an hour. If you push it, you'll just end up part of the scenery.

Remember that there will be a lot of fast cars and bikes there, and there is no control over the standard of driving, so you'll need to be checking your mirrors before every turn in. Add to that the huge number of corners, and the fact that you don't know any of them yet (and it will take you a lot of visits before you can even remember them all, let alone string a good lap together).

Just take it easy and enjoy yourself. Treat it like a nice B road in this country that you know you won't get nicked for speeding on.

 

[colin129]

Remember that you can get a 6 lap ticket for about £35, which works out at the best value and I found it to be sufficient for general familiarisation.

Also, I latched on to 3 experienced (Porsche driving) guys who were happy for me to follow them round and one of them let me ride with him and he showed me all the turn in points etc, which made it much more enjoyable when I went solo.

Although, if you are in pairs and have a detailed map, you could navigate the circuit (much like a rally stage).

Have fun, drive safe....

 

[Davyboy]

I was there with Lali last weekend....psssst, how do I get my data logger info?

If you really only want to do 3 laps, then a nice Monday afternoon should be ample, although I'd suggest you will do more than that. This last weekend I did 40 laps which was great fun.

What was not so much fun was paying for all the fuel. I did not get an awful lot of change from £500 [][:'(]

 

[Hilux]

Forget all thoughts about timing your laps - especially the first visit. You won't even get to know which way the corners go for many many laps

Correct

However there are some great videos of `ring laps available on `tinternet.

The best one I have is a superb one with an R1 following and filming a Westy with all the corners named. Good cos its filmed higher than a car so you see more of the track ahead.

On google video look for Jochen Mass (I think) in an M3 GT car, awesome.

I HIGHLY recommend you watch, watch and rewatch them. You will get a feel for it in time but at least you wont be driving totally blind.

HTH

 

[Guest]

The first time I went there on the bike I would describe any corner as, "You know, the one with the blind entry over the brow." This did not narrow things down much.

Scary scary on the first lap, but increasingly epic thereafter. Enjoy!

 

[Davyboy]

A couple of 944 laps can be seen here: The firs one is fast, the 2nd one is just a great veiwing.

http://www.northloop.co.uk/videos_turbo_944bumpercam.htm

http://www.northloop.co.uk/videos_turbo_968&944.htm

Obviously I have nothing to do with either of them [8|]

 

[333pg333]

I am having trouble looking at those videos. I'm getting a message:
npdsplay-Can not create a DirectShow Player. Does anyone know how I can remedy this? I'm not a computer head so you may have to speak s-l-o-w-l-y for the dummy.
Thanks

 

[Davyboy]

http://www.cannell.co.uk/Video/968_944.wmv

 

[Guest]

If you have a PS2 and GT4 you can drive and presumably learn (a bit) the ring; it seems pretty realistic to me but i haven't seen the real thing.
Sad advice I know but it passes the winter evenings []

 

[lali]

ORIGINAL: stevep944

If you have a PS2 and GT4 you can drive and presumably learn (a bit) the ring; it seems pretty realistic to me but i haven't seen the real thing.
Sad advice I know but it passes the winter evenings []

DO NOT for even a second assume that beacause you can get around on GT4 that you'll be able to go around on the real thing.... camber changes and bumps and dips and ripples can upset your car so much that before you have got time to say "it didnt do that on my PS2" you'll be sat next to the armco awaiting the very nice man from ADAC.

Drive it line of sight and you'll be fine. drive smooth, the speed will come on its own. Dont race the locals ( anything that looks like a modified golf gti ) and remember its always better to live to fight another day!

 

[Mark_Bennett]

Wise words.

Just to put it in perspective another Biker died there last week.

Treat it with respect and you'll have a ball and be back.
Please watch for others (especially bikes - they are upon you before you know it) and obey the rules.

 

[Diver944]

If you do want to learn the layout from a simulator then buy the old 'Grand Prix Legends' PC game (around a fiver on Amazon and Ebay). This uses the old 1967 GP cars and is virtually undriveable when you first start. Challenge yourself to go round without crashing once and you WILL learn which corners are dangerous in real life.

It will also take you more than 10 minutes to get round (unlike arcadey PS2 games) which is truer to real life