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One of RPMs 944T back on ebay

Shame about the interior. Still, wouldn't take much to put right. Did they do it like this deliberately?
 
If I'm correct those wheels/tyres used to be mine (they were spares I bought last year) and he can't have had them on the car for more than a couple of weeks or so [:(], but at least he did the right thing and had them painted a proper colour [:D].

The interior looks nice in person and by all accounts the carpets are a good weight saving compromise. It was always a nice and quick car when Darren owned it.
 
I much prefered the other car, may even have bought it if someone else hadn't, that car and another I nearly bought seem to have vanished, I would have thought they are the kind of cars that would be bought by enthusiasts who would then seek out similar nut cases [;)].
 
I think that's the car my set of OEM Cup 1s came off when I bought them from Darren last year. They were two-tone (black with red rims) and he had the rims painted blue for me. They look fantastic.

I don't mind the interior. Reminds me of a CS........... [:D][:D][:D], or even my much-missed Scimitar GTE which I had in the early 70s. Always had the rear seats down to give the dog a big play area.
 
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Shame about the interior. Still, wouldn't take much to put right. Did they do it like this deliberately?
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I don't follow. If the black seats were (the original) linen then it would be standard, all but minor stuff like the dials, 968 CS tray and steering wheel. Is it just the black seats and black carpet section that you are saying looks odd? I think it would look fine in the flesh.
 
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Shame about the interior. Still, wouldn't take much to put right. Did they do it like this deliberately?
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I don't follow. If the black seats were (the original) linen then it would be standard, all but minor stuff like the dials, 968 CS tray and steering wheel. Is it just the black seats and black carpet section that you are saying looks odd? I think it would look fine in the flesh.
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Fen, purely cosmetic but I don't like the contrast between the main carpet colour (I'm guessing its linen) and the black door cards. Also, the black centre console butted up to a linen/black main dash. It just looks too 'messed with' for me, like they couldn't get a linen centre console, seats and door cards to match the linen carpet or couldn't find a black carpet and completely black main dash to match the seats and door cards.

I'm assuming the interior isn't how it came out of the factory but neither is most of the rest of the car so horses for courses! The interior isn't my cup of cha but the rest looks fab, like the other 944's I've seen come out of RPM.
 
Very nice but £10k? I'd say there is a very limited market for a ten-grand 944.
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Interestingly I've had several people contact me this week alone looking for really exceptional cars. They're certainly aware that to buy the best, and put more money into it as necessary to bring it to real top standard, isn't a £4k option. You'll more likely spend £7k, and then another £2-£3K on top of that. The new clutch and tyres on the advertised car are worth £1500 alone. Buying one of the few left in as-new condition might be cheaper in the long run, or buying someone else's restoration project for a fraction of it's value.

There are people who appreciate that £8K for a Turbo cab in good condition is going to give you a decent car that won't cost the earth over, say, 10 years even if it loses £000s more. A truly immaculate Turbo like Simon's might be of most appeal to a concourse competitor, but that's still a very active market.

If you look at the list of work the RPM car's had done it beggars belief that you could get it for less than £10K. [&o]
 
Paul, I'm not suggesting that you could get all that lot done for less than £10k and nor am I suggesting that it's not worth the money - I just opined that there would be a limited market for a 20-year old motor at £10k. Seems I was wrong about that [&:]
 
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Paul, I'm not suggesting that you could get all that lot done for less than £10k and nor am I suggesting that it's not worth the money - I just opined that there would be a limited market for a 20-year old motor at £10k. Seems I was wrong about that [&:]
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No, you're absolutely right. It's a very limited market, but then I only know of a handful of cars that I'd call exceptional. The RPM car is one, Simon's another and a turbo cab I know of that I think has been sold. Possibly the Nutley Cars one as well, I haven't seen it though. So, you really only need 5 people looking to buy one and demand outstrips supply! [&:]

I think the market is dividing very noticably. There are plenty of new people here with cheap cars, usually DIY repairs or happy to live with a few little faults like tatty seats, for instance. At the other end there are people who want a car that's either concourse-level condition or mechanically modified for track. What I imagine will happen is that the average cars get cheaper, with more bills and less thorough maintenance, and the rare exceptional cars become even rarer as they are long-term prospects and not appearing on the market all that often.

If anyone's interested I do know of an S2 in far higher than average condition that might be coming on the market soon, call me if you're looking! [:)]
 
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Fen, purely cosmetic but I don't like the contrast between the main carpet colour (I'm guessing its linen) and the black door cards. Also, the black centre console butted up to a linen/black main dash. It just looks too 'messed with' for me, like they couldn't get a linen centre console, seats and door cards to match the linen carpet or couldn't find a black carpet and completely black main dash to match the seats and door cards.

I'm assuming the interior isn't how it came out of the factory but neither is most of the rest of the car so horses for courses! The interior isn't my cup of cha but the rest looks fab, like the other 944's I've seen come out of RPM.
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Actually, you're right there is more stuff black in there that should be linen than I originally spotted. I' not sure I like it exactly, but I could live with it for sure. I think the door cards in linen would balance it sufficiently.
 
I'm trying to be quite conservative with my spending but with the exception of the interior changes that isn't far from where I want to be. I was all set up to go and see the other car Darren had last year but it ran into problems and I found something else.
Realistically for a good, checked car I think its about right - within 2 years of buying a "good" car and then upgrading you would be well over 10K if you're not careful.
Offset seeing the improvements each change makes against spending more (but ultimately less) in the first place and having a really good car.
 
It's lovely. If I had the spare money, and could fix up the interior (all black or nothing, for me), I'd be all over that. As it is, my own car's in fantastic condition and will make an excellent base for a few modifications if and when the necessary cash drops in my lap.
 
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I'm trying to be quite conservative with my spending but with the exception of the interior changes that isn't far from where I want to be. I was all set up to go and see the other car Darren had last year but it ran into problems and I found something else.
Realistically for a good, checked car I think its about right - within 2 years of buying a "good" car and then upgrading you would be well over 10K if you're not careful.
Offset seeing the improvements each change makes against spending more (but ultimately less) in the first place and having a really good car.
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I spoke to Darren when both the cars were for sale, the one on ebay now was marketed as "fast road" and I think it had a modded turbo and genuine cup wheels then, I got the impression £9k would probably have bought this one though personally I would rather have bought it from RPM than privately. At the time I thought £9k+ was a bit strong, in hindsight the other car was probably worth that.
 
I quite like the look of the black and linen two tone interior, it makes a nice contrast (I don't think it would work on any other exterior colour though). Darren showed me the Turbocharger before they fitted it a few years ago when I was down there with my S2, I can't remember the specifics or the sizing but I seem to remember it was ball bearing like mine so should spool up very quickly [:)] Don't quote me on that though, my memory is hazy at the best of times

Edited to add - forget that, the Ebay ad says the customer has recently replaced the turbo [&:]
 
The last message I had from RPM about this car said that they were prepared to take parts off to reduce the price, I think the wheels and turbo were taken off.
 
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...Actually, you're right there is more stuff black in there that should be linen than I originally spotted. I' not sure I like it exactly, but I could live with it for sure. I think the door cards in linen would balance it sufficiently.
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I'm glad I saw it. I had been pondering some black bits for the inside of Beaky. I'm not so enthusiastic now.

Interesting linen hand brake gaiter - what a sad anorak that I find the colour of a hand brake gaiter interesting?

Back OT £9K is a lot of dosh for a 20 year old car when you consider the vast array of alternatives open to you for similar money. On the other hand, I'm not sure (this week) I'd want to swap mine for anything short of £30K.
 
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