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[Suffolk944]

I started to put my first name in my sig a while back to help avoid the confusion that Mr Sims suffers from [][].

Must say every other forum I have ever been a member of always have had "nom de plumes" (sp ?) for the contributors.

That said its no biggie for me either way particularly, though if "real" names were preferred would rather my user name be Jon T or some such rather than have my full name plastered over the interweb.

 

[944Turbo]

ORIGINAL: zcacogp

Sir, your memory serves you well.

Congratulations!

Now, has anyone seen the June edition of "Trucker Monthly"? That swedish 6-axle tractor unit really looks the business, don't you think?


Oli.

Now I am strangely pleased that Oli and I are destined never to be at the same events []

 

[Northern924]

Then I have to say that if that kind of insistance becomes part of the rules for posting here then I won't be posting anymore, that is if the rules are to be enforced to such an extent, at that point the attitude of the club would make me seriously question whether or not I will be paying the £66 to join at the end of this month as I had planned, the club has the details of every member and I would assume a record of their forum handle, but if it is a non-member would it make any difference if the listed a name, after all as its been said how are you going to prove that is their name anyway.
Yes its nice to add you name to make things a little more personal, but to insist on full names is going a bit far, can you tell me what that will do to improve the forum??

While I may just be a lowly 924S owner, I had clicked on the 944 link looking for a little advice as they share the same engine, I read this thread as I do with all information threads to keep abreast of any changes in forum rules etc.
And as I've said maybe my opinion as a non-member doesn't count, but this all seems to be coming across as very heavy handed, I know that it is very hard sometimes to transfer you thoughts into written words and all people will have a different take on what they read.
I've popped in here for 18 months and found it a very helpful and freindly forum, I hope that doesn't change.

-Paul

 

[Mark_Bennett]

Paul,

You've included your name in your signature, and you've got it in your profile, so it's not like you are anonymous.[]
Unfortunately some who registered were completely anonymous and sometimes those people caused trouble...

As you say it's a friendly helpful forum, that's the way we are trying to keep it.

Incidentally this is not a change to the rules, they have stayed the same since it started. We have just been asked to ensure they are followed.

One last thing, stop all this nonsense about "just a lowly 924S owner". It's a Porsche, it's an excellent car, and you are more than welcome at any club events [8D]

 

[peanut]

ORIGINAL: Northern924

Then I have to say that if that kind of insistance becomes part of the rules for posting here then I won't be posting anymore, that is if the rules are to be enforced to such an extent, at that point the attitude of the club would make me seriously question whether or not I will be paying the £66 to join at the end of this month as I had planned, the club has the details of every member and I would assume a record of their forum handle, but if it is a non-member would it make any difference if the listed a name, after all as its been said how are you going to prove that is their name anyway.
Yes its nice to add you name to make things a little more personal, but to insist on full names is going a bit far, can you tell me what that will do to improve the forum??

While I may just be a lowly 924S owner, I had clicked on the 944 link looking for a little advice as they share the same engine, I read this thread as I do with all information threads to keep abreast of any changes in forum rules etc.
And as I've said maybe my opinion as a non-member doesn't count, but this all seems to be coming across as very heavy handed, I know that it is very hard sometimes to transfer you thoughts into written words and all people will have a different take on what they read.
I've popped in here for 18 months and found it a very helpful and freindly forum, I hope that doesn't change.

-Paul

whilst I wholeheartedly agree with everything you say Paul ,reading between the lines there is a apparently a lot of money at stake and we all have to doff our caps to somebody
It looks to me like its a question of like it or lump it I'm afraid . I for one would miss this community hugely if we were to lose it

 

[zcacogp]

Peanut,

Sadly, you are not alone in thinking this.

I post this with caution, but Brett (nutter with nutty 928) Ainley evidently thinks the same, given his post here:

http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=529344

ETA: If you click on that link there ( ^^^ ), brew a pot of coffee, cancel your appointments for the next hour and read the whole thing. To skim the first few pages is to do it, and this forum, an injustice.


Oli.

 

[Mark_Bennett]

I expect the link will disappear when Paul or John get here. But if you are going to read it, read all 19 pages.

Sadly Brett was unable to agree to remove the advert from his signature, threw his toys out, and has posted a pack of lies all over the web. He's seeing conspiracy theories where there are none, and has basic facts wrong (e.g. we've never changed the rules, Peter has been admin as long as we've had a forum.
He's never produced the emails he says he has, and we have to conclude it's all fiction.

 

[zcacogp]

Mark,

OK, thanks for putting the other side to the story. I can't verify (or deny) anything Brett has claimed, although I am a long-standing PH'er (having been registered there for a lot longer than I have been registered here) and read his thread with interest (and some concern.)

I have met Brett in person a number of times (his waggon was at Cornbury house for the meeting there a month or so back) and always thought him nuttier than fruitcake, although a decent enough chap.

Paul/John - I appreciate that it's your gaff hence your rules, but I'd appreciate it if the link stayed. If Brett is away with the fairies then so be it, and let his comments (on PH) be judged accordingly. However, any forum which is closed to criticism and removes any critical references is something I would be circumspect about recommending ...


Oli.

 

[pauljmcnulty]

I'm happy to leave the link here, but PLEASE read to the end, not just the first page where a few nuts actually believe him! []

For those who get bored easily, below is my post explaining the facts:

"Hi all,

I haven't replied here, in the hope that it would run it's course. People don't seem to be getting bored, though....

Hopefully I can put the facts straight. Not about any of the off-topic stuff, just the title of the thread "PCGB CENSORSHIP TODAY- PISTONHEADS TOMORROW ?"

I spoke to Brett for about 45 mins on the day he resigned. I then actioned removing him as a moderator on the PCGB forum. Unlike some people I do know what was said, as I said it! I can confirm that Brett tried to use threats to get his own way, smiley faces don't hide a man with a personal agenda. There is no doubt among the admin team that there was no compromise possible within our forum rules and thus the issue really resolved itself.

Brett was asked to hide the commercial link in his signature. After going all round the houses with several mis-understandings from everyone all we could do was to enforce our forum rule. Brett is the only one out of thousands to refuse to do so. He's not entitled to be a special case regardless of his own reasons to believe that he is! It's a shame, Brett was a lively member who brought life to the 928 forum but if he would not adhere to the forum rules then it's up to him.

There is no censorship on the PCGB forum, nor, as far as I can see here either. There are, however, rules and guidelines on both. If you break those rules and members complain the admin team do have to act, nothing wrong there? Remember, the PCGB forum is run by it's members, for it's members and if you really don't like it then either go somewhere else or join and campaign to change it from the inside!

I'm sure that some of you, who weren't party to the dispute, will choose to believe one side over the other. Remember, any forum member who thinks they've been unfairly treated can take their case to the directors rather that shouting about it in hugely exaggerated terms on other forums. Of course, they're free to do that as well!

Time to move on."

 

[pauljmcnulty]

And as I've said maybe my opinion as a non-member doesn't count, but this all seems to be coming across as very heavy handed, I know that it is very hard sometimes to transfer you thoughts into written words and all people will have a different take on what they read.
I've popped in here for 18 months and found it a very helpful and freindly forum, I hope that doesn't change.

Hi Paul,

The reason that John Sims and myself volunteered to help the admin team was because we wanted to keep the Register forums open to non-members! You're all very welcome here and I said in no uncertain terms that I couldn't envisage running a Register for older cars without the forum community and it's non-member input. I hope the only thing you'll notice changing is a more civilised and polite forum, not that it was often a problem before. The only time anyone will get heavy-handed is if someone repeatedly refuses to accept the spirit of the forum guidelines, in which case they are free to use other forums that allow things like personal abuse, swearing, advertising etc. We have a little oasis of mature communication in the wild-west environment of the internet, and we want to keep it that way! []

 

[pauljmcnulty]

Paul/John - I appreciate that it's your gaff hence your rules, but I'd appreciate it if the link stayed. If Brett is away with the fairies then so be it, and let his comments (on PH) be judged accordingly. However, any forum which is closed to criticism and removes any critical references is something I would be circumspect about recommending

Hi Oli,

Not John and me who make the rules, but we are trying to ensure that the terms and conditions that every forum user signs up to are followed. Criticism is fine, abuse isn't. Discussion good, exaggerated rant bad.

Brett also posted his rubbish on Tipec, but the threads have been removed because they are fed up with it too. If anyone feels the need to discuss things then please call one of us!

 

[944Turbo]

I believe it was a dispute with Brett which caused Fen to leave the club and the forum, i know whose posts I would rather read,
Tony

 

[Northern924]

Good comments from what seem to be a level headed admin team, and that a breath of fresh air these days in this on line world.
Had hoped to get to the meet last night, but the evil that is work got in the way, just spending that much on the car at the minute, as I did with the n/a last year, only thing thats stopped me joining so far, but hopefully that will change at the end of this month and fingers crossed if I can stop the hot start problem will be at next months NE meet.

I'm off to resume normal service and pick the brains of people who know more than I

 

[edh]

ORIGINAL: 944Turbo

I believe it was a dispute with Brett which caused Fen to leave the club and the forum, i know whose posts I would rather read,
Tony

Is that right? - what a waste... [8|]

I know Fen was/is fairly robust in his opinions - nothing wrong with that I think, but he talked a lot of sense.

O/T a bit, but whatever happened to the Land Glider?

 

[zcacogp]

Paul,

Thanks for your reply. I think I owe you a (minor!) apology ... the aforementioned PH thread I linked to was somewhat shorter when I read it (a while ago) and the later comments are a bit more revealing. I'm not going to openly malign Brett on a public forum - he struck me as a guy with a real passion and an interest, but I do now suspect that he may be seeing things a little differently to others.

I am of the belief that there is no smoke without fire, but can (easily) believe that there was a falling-out between Brett and PCGB which led to this. And, like any chap who genuinely believes that he has been wronged, Brett is reluctant to let it drop.

Thanks for leaving the link up there. Should anyone click on it, I'd echo the other comments on here to read the whole thing. Yes, it will take you a long time, and yes, it will bore the pants off you, but do read it all. (Original message edited to this effect.)

As for the comments about Fen - that's a shame. I throughly enjoyed meeting Fen on the few times our paths crossed, and his posts (here and on TITANIC) were always, without exception, worth reading. I never knew why he left this website; the comments on here are intriguing and, as Tony said, I know whose posts I would rather have read. His departure was a great loss to this forum.


Oli.

 

[John Sims]

I echo the comments above regarding Fens posts. He is one of the most knowledgeable people I have met with regard to 944's. Forums like this need such people.

Fen is now a resident of New Zealand and thoroughly enjoying the outdoor life that the country provides. As I understand The Land Glider was to have a working engine installed in preparation for sale. Fen wasn't intending to ship it to NZ but, plans change so, who knows what might happen.

He did leave this forum over a previous misunderstanding with Brett. Perhaps, considering the change of circumstances, he could be encouraged to post again.

 

[stevespic]

Quick question... and sorry for you all having to read the name again but is brett the guy with the steel blue nitros 928 ?

 

[geoff Ives]

YES

 

[Fen]

Aww, I'm touched...

I am not going to comment on my reasons for choosing to leave the forum (with no overseas membership option I wasn't going to stay in the Club, regardless) save to say there was a dispute, arbitration suggested I was the one in the wrong and isn't it funny how things have a way of working out right in the end?

As John stated above I now occupy a little piece of moral high ground nearly as far from the UK as it's possible to find land and where it's currently mid-winter and the weather is much as I remember last June in UK being, only drier.

The Land Glider is still in deepest, darkest Devon where it has been having an ex-Porsche Cup engine fitted for blimmin' ages now. The original plan was to sell it at the start of the trackday season, but it wasn't ready and as the backside has probably fallen almost entirely out of any value it may have had the plans are on hold beyond getting it running. I could ship it to NZ, but if the truth be told I'm not that interested and I don't really know what I'd do with it over here, so the hassle and expense aren't attractive. If anyone wants a turnkey 944T biased quite heavily toward track work (and virtually not at all toward pretty) then let me know.

I left of my own free will so I am assuming I am still welcome, but I don't anticipate being "back" to the extent that I used to post on here, nor anywhere close (I expect I'll hear Paul Mc's sigh of relief from here when he reads that), but I might well stick my nose in from time to time by way of keeping in touch with the friends I have made through the 944 community over the years.

 

[944Turbo]

Welcome back