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Pads and discs ???

clubsport

clubsport

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Guys, I am not too far away from changing my discs and pads.
In the past I have run standard Porsche discs and pads on road and track and have been happy.
I purchased my current RS last year and it came with standard discs with some performance friction carbon/ceramic pads. On the road it is a nightmare, everytime I touch the brakes it sounds like someone has stabbed a cat (allegedly) thay have mullered the discs and I will not be trying those again! However they definitely do the job on track once they have heat in them.

I have been told that correct Porsche discs rather than pattern (eurocarparts/Gsf) is the way to go along with the Pagid RS29 yellow pads.
I am not too sure about this as the Yellow is an endurance pad and I tend to do 20 minute stints on track at a time being a bit of a lightweight myself [;)]

The car will be used on track....but I will drive to track days and a few events a year where the car will be parked up and try to look shiny.

So what are your brake pad/ disc reccomendations and why?...Thanks for your thoughts [:)]
 
Cheers Maurice "Blues" certainly are a consideration being slightly one stage towards street than the yellows........Hmmmmm!
 
I had standard pads on mine when I got the car, then I tried the Pagid Blue, squeals a little from time to time but nothing you can't live with, and even I can feel the difference on braking performance even when cold. And they're not killing the discs either.
 
Rennlist boys seem to think the Pagid yellows are a track pad that are better on the road than the blue road pads are on track...if that makes sense? [:eek:]

They don't exactly give thhe yellows away either [:(]
 
I had the same squeeling yellow pagid pads until last week, happy to say they are binned now,
new Porsche discs and standard pads fitted with the anti squeel shims, no more embarrassing noises
or frightening anyone within half a mile !! just silence is golden.

 
Steve, the noise is certainly one of my concerns, were the yellows really that bad?...I am willing to put up with some squeal for improved track performance,,
I can't be fussed with switching pads over between trackdays..HHhhmmmm! not easy is it?
 
Paul
Pagid 29 is great for road and track,summer or winter.To stop the noise use some anti noise sticky pads ,Porsche factory discs only,and use the turbo 2 disc and bell on the front,around £120 each.
Performance braking at monmouth,best for price.
Performance friction pads are good but only on there discs really for sensible wear rates.
 
The squeel really got to me in the end, so much I was using the handbrake to stop at traffic lights !!
the yellow pagids have formidable stopping qualities but hated the noise.
 
Paul, a bit late now as I've just fitted four new 993 rs discs, but why 965 brakes as opposed to 993 rs ?
 
I had RS29s (yellows) for a bit. I think the squeel is unacceptable, but I never tried anti-squeel shims. I think Pagid blues are the way forward.
 
Paul, do you happen to have access to the part no for these discs please?

I have standard 993 rs as

right front; 993 351 046 00
left front; 993 351 045 00

Cheers, it may make things a tad easier when speaking to the OPC parts guys
 
ORIGINAL: johnny senna

I had RS29s (yellows) for a bit. I think the squeel is unacceptable, but I never tried anti-squeel shims. I think Pagid blues are the way forward.
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I must say you have tremendous powers of recollection there JS.....considering how long since you last drove your car [:D]....(sorry mate)
So, noise aside, what did the yella's stop like??? and why do you favour the blues...just quieter???
Cheers...see you on track soon mate [:)]
 
I have run yellows, at present I am running blacks and yellow (rear and front). Yellows are the endurance racing pad; that tells you most of what you need to know. They last a long time, are not too aggressive, work better with a little heat, but are for racing. They work fine on the road, but can squeal especially when used "lightly". I don't mind this being the only price to pay and it makes the car feel "race car" to me.

There are more aggressive pagid pads, but the yellow is a good pad where you want a more track biased option. That being said, I know of people who used OEM pads (or Textar, the unbranded equivalent) on track for years. Pagids not essential; they can all stop the car well enough if discs, pads and fluid all in decent nick.
 
Thanks for that Jimmy, as you say edurance pad is the key...hhmmm???

Still trying to find out about these other discs that fit, now being told they are not turbo 2 and there is only a single piece disc in this size???...confusing isn't it? [:D]
 
ORIGINAL: clubsport

ORIGINAL: johnny senna

I had RS29s (yellows) for a bit. I think the squeel is unacceptable, but I never tried anti-squeel shims. I think Pagid blues are the way forward.
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I must say you have tremendous powers of recollection there JS.....considering how long since you last drove your car [:D]....(sorry mate)
So, noise aside, what did the yella's stop like??? and why do you favour the blues...just quieter???
Cheers...see you on track soon mate [:)]
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Hi mate,
The yellows are up to operating temp pretty much straight away, but I deliberately get some heat into them on the road first thing in the morning....but they are safe even when cold. Contrast this to Mintex F4R pads which don't work well when cold. The squeel on the yellows is crazy though. But it is very race car! I think they are quite harsh on discs too, but I am no expert on this.
I think the Blues are a good compromise. They work fine on the track. But the In terms of performance on track, Yellows are more dramatic, more grabby, and they never faded on me. I could detect slight fade after a few laps with the blues, but nothing at all to write home about.
 
Johnny, thanks for your views, I am really torn here...hard to get a pad for all occasions...how do you find disc wear with the blues, especially in comparison with the standard and yellows..standard I am familiar with, yellows,,,endurance...so must be reasonable for longevity..reason I ask is my current perfromance frictions have munched the discs...look like kernacked pccb only steels [:-]
 
Hi Paul
Part numbers for front L&R 96535104500 bell & discs.96535104600Riveria The reason for the 965 front discs is purley heat,they stand less chance of warping on track days.Standard rs on the rear.As said standard pads are fine,P29 also very good allrounder.




 
Paul, excellent!...many thanks for the part numbers,,,an opc and a turbo 2 owner both told me only one price discs were fitted [8|] Where as you and JohnC mentioned the heat advantage of the bell equipped version, hopefully I can track these down now,,,cheers [:)]
 
Hi Nick, I don't have PET for earlier cars,,,,but my understanding is that the regular 993RS/TT discs are solid one piece, these turbo 2 discs are one piece with the disc part attatched to a bell allowing expansion and improved dissipation of heat.....they are not the same as the alcon/brembo discs & bells, where you effectively keep the centre and replace the disc ring when required.
Do these 965 discs look like they have different centres to the regular discs on the diagram?
 
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