PCCB problem 991 Turbo

[garyw]

ORIGINAL: blueSL

About the damage to wheels from the kerbs in Eurotunnel trains.

My advice is to book as a car with bikes on the roof; that way, you get onto a carriage with a wider track and narrower kerbs and if some Eurotunnel Jobsworth queries it, just dispense an appropriately sized flea in his or her ear.

And to confirm it costs no more than normal.. []
But it is a much longer walk to the toilet blocks...[]

 

[lowndes]

My thanks to Mark for the advice.

And having just this minute amended my LWOTY shuttle details I can also confirm Gary is absolutely right about no additional charge.

Now all I need to do is find some bikes and a bike rack []

Cheers

Nick

 

[garyw]

ORIGINAL: lowndes
Now all I need to do is find some bikes and a bike rack []

Fear not Nick, a convoy of twelve Maccas with 'roof racks' was not questioned last year []
I did notice though that the kerbs are higher on the coach trains.. so if you get it wrong it will hurt...!

 

[grover]

I always use the wider train compartments, never a challenge.......have to now anyway as the new red car.....yes it is washed frequently but also used frequently......is too wide for the other parts.

Not good re the PCCB, I had major issues with mine on the 997 turbo s, wasn't impressed with Porsche over this. did just buy a new car from them though.....what is all this brand loyalty!

D

 

[fireblade]

Hi All

Thanks all for your constructive comments and sympathy.

I just don't want to touch the car at the moment as every time I look at it I see the two (admittedly tiny) scuffs and the shiny yellow callipers which signify my disillusionment with probably my last decent car.

However Monday March 3rd will be crunch day and I am allowing most of the morning for "discussion"

Cheers

Michael

 

[tscaptain]

At least it's not likely to burst into flames......[]

Good luck on the 3rd then!

 

[fireblade]

ORIGINAL: tscaptain

At least it's not likely to burst into flames......[]

Good luck on the 3rd then!

Well Alan, you may have the answer, while it is in their custody!

With my luck they would probably use my fire extinguisher to put it out quickly with just smoke damage!

Cheers

 

[ralphmusic]

Apparently....

Quote:

CCBDS on 991Ttts, vibration and noise. from new." Porsche are aware of this problem" "its down to the wrong size bolts being fitted to a backing plate from new, new discs and pads are required". "none in stock in UK or Germany"

End Quote (Source http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=48&t=1267552&mid=321031&i=8680&nmt=Prospective+991+GT3+Owners+Discussion&mid=321031)

If true, what happened to Porsche's engineering excellence? If true, just rubbish management and process control.

 

[Lancerlot]

ORIGINAL: ralphmusic
If true, what happened to Porsche's engineering excellence?

It was acquired by Audi/Volkswagen. [&:]

 

[ralphmusic]

I think they added the "couldn't care less about customers", not sure about engineering and manufacturing. I guess they might have transferred out some Porsche engineers.

It is a long time since Six Sigma was introduced into the world, I get how they can design something sub optimally (e.g. adequacy of GTS brake rotors, a personal view) but how to fit the wrong parts, not tighten nuts correctly, run fuel lines that chafe, I don't know.

 

[fireblade]

ORIGINAL: ralphmusic

Apparently....

Quote:

CCBDS on 991Ttts, vibration and noise. from new." Porsche are aware of this problem" "its down to the wrong size bolts being fitted to a backing plate from new, new discs and pads are required". "none in stock in UK or Germany"

End Quote (Source http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=48&t=1267552&mid=321031&i=8680&nmt=Prospective+991+GT3+Owners+Discussion&mid=321031)

If true, what happened to Porsche's engineering excellence? If true, just rubbish management and process control.

Sounds right to me, I am still awaiting discs but no one has mentioned bolts or the requirement for new pads.

I had to go to France last Saturday but held out for a letter from Porsche GB which states after an apology for the delay "However Porsche can confirm the issue is not safety related and does not affect the braking performance."

It was a pretty unnerving "rattle" when braking hard at 130k to avoid a lorry changing lane but nothing fell off and they did work!!

Cheers

PS still working on new avatar!

 

[Chris_in_the_UK]

So is all the supposed 'testing' not fit for purpose or is this a result of outsourcing after the data is analysed?. It's no good testing something to death and then chasing the costs down, nor is it ok to test to death with a spec that is not equal to showroom.

ORIGINAL: ralphmusic

I think they added the "couldn't care less about customers", not sure about engineering and manufacturing. I guess they might have transferred out some Porsche engineers.

It is a long time since Six Sigma was introduced into the world, I get how they can design something sub optimally (e.g. adequacy of GTS brake rotors, a personal view) but how to fit the wrong parts, not tighten nuts correctly, run fuel lines that chafe, I don't know.

 

[ralphmusic]

And a USA technical bulletin dated January 31, 2014 seems to relate to the noise problem, you might have seen this.

See http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/991-gt3/800153-pccbs-replaced.html

 

[Chris_in_the_UK]

Which brings us back to the subject of pre market testing and the specification (and any changes) beyond sign off.