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malarcy said:
The manual for the unit is available online to checkout the features.

From my reading. Yes the unit does the sports chronos integration and it’s native nav retains dash integration.

You also get bose integration including fader and audio pilot (if you have Bose). Steering wheel controls as well. If you need them.

And ignition on and lights on signals
and you don’t need the fascia kit.



depending on the starting point there’s approx 350 of extra bits to get the Sony hooked up. And (if Bose) the 3rd party solutions are lacking in some features). may of course be included in the Sony for 400 but I would be surprised.

the 3rd party units typically require an extra dab aerial stuck to the windscreen

the unit is 1420 inc vat. Before pcgb discount. If you are paying a 3rd party to install the Sony then they could install the pccm + for the same amount so that nets out.


also. Don’t known if this is because the car they used in the friends green Porsche video already had "individual memory” in the car but that was
supported - two ways of looking at that its a feature that would cost probably 400 to retro fit. If you get it free with pccm+ then great. If you already have it then you retain it. if you went 3rd party and already had it then it’s another feature you lose.

of course. Everyone’s personal call on what something is worth and what features you need / want.

Personally I am surprised a mainstream 3rd party could be done and dusted for 500 but if that works for you and you personally get what you want then winner
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Many thanks for the reply. That's very helpful. The £500 quote was over a year ago and the world has somewhat imploded since! My car is a 997T with Bose though I never use the chrono. I don't recall discussing whether there was extras because of Bose, but then I probably didn't mention it either. Looking onliner, it does seem that the Bose adds another complication.

Fort as often as I use the car and the Nav, I'll keep with the £20 phone holder.
 
Stefan Wilczak said:
The Friends Green Porsche installation video and the comments below (particularly the first one) and the user manuals for the head unit maps and FAQs are really useful, use this link: https://www.porsche.com/international/accessoriesandservice/classic/genuineparts/producthighlights/pccm/manuals/

The only thing I couldn't find in the manuals of FAQs was what impact if any it would have on Sport Chrono - if anyone knows, please would you post. The new PCCM seems very well integrated with the controls on the steering wheel and the instrument display but if it screws with the Sport Chrono it would be a shame.

In all this talk about prices, has anyone sold their old PCM unit, CD changer and the other box in the boot, is it something to do with the nav (all of mine is in working order)? £1800 seems to be the price fitted (Friends Green Porsche) but if you can recover a few hundred quid for the stuff that comes out it would make the cost more palatable.
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not looked for a while but i Seem to remember that that manual that was posted back in feb talked about the "extra trip”’counter available for sports chronos - the lap counter being present in the new pccm unit.


I don’t know a the other "save my reference lap” to usb stuff (the 987.2 has this - I have never used it )

I know that putting a 3rd party head unit in the car doesn’t affect sport chronos operation (you just lose the trip / lap stuff ) so I imagine that’s the worst case.
 
Thanks Paul - I had a word with my friendly specialist and he said virtually the same. The car is going in to the local OPC for a service this month so I will try and get it confirmed whilst I am there and get a quote for supply and fit.
 
Had my PCCM fitted by Solihull OPC - looks great. However, bearing in mind it's part of the same group, I think that the one fitted to my VW T-roc is better.
 
Boris said:
Had my PCCM fitted by Solihull OPC - looks great. However, bearing in mind it's part of the same group, I think that the one fitted to my VW T-roc is better.
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What did they charge, please?
 
Hi,
A quick question to those that have had a PCCM Plus installed, how do you find the volume control? I have fitted the unit to my 987 and find the volume is not linear on the scale of 0 - 30. By the time I have reached 5 on the scale it is far too loud for comfortable listening let alone conversation and there are another 25 increments to go by which time the speakers would have long since given up.
Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
Adrian
 
How long is the backlog for the PCCM+ units? I’ve just had my booking at a local independent cancelled as the units are on back order.
 
As best I can fathom 'back order' means that individual Porsche Parts departments have no information on a part, other than that it will be available some time. Since Parts departments (at least in my experience) can't order a part for you which is on 'back order', it follows that Porsche have no idea what the backlog could be.

Ultimately Porsche seem to have seriously under-estimated demand and/or have hit manufacturing/supply problems ('Made in China' according to the stickers on the parts).
 
Have you confirmed with an opc that there is a supply problem. ?

i am never convinced with " supply issues " unless I hear it first hand.


some folks seem to be getting them supplied and fitted at both opc and Indy’s and even diy without issue.
 
A batch of PCCM+ units on back order finally turned up at my local indy, so I have just had one fitted.

Irritatingly, it will not talk to my iPod. "Not supported." Nothing on USB and no visibility on Bluetooth either. Do I need an app for this?
 
Brisel said:
A batch of PCCM+ units on back order finally turned up at my local indy, so I have just had one fitted.

Irritatingly, it will not talk to my iPod. "Not supported." Nothing on USB and no visibility on Bluetooth either. Do I need an app for this?
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I will answer my own question. No app available. Apple CarPlay is for iPhones only and it requires cellular signal for the other bits like navigation to work properly. I connected the iPod via Bluetooth but had limited control of it via the head unit.
 
adriang said:
Hi,
A quick question to those that have had a PCCM Plus installed, how do you find the volume control? I have fitted the unit to my 987 and find the volume is not linear on the scale of 0 - 30. By the time I have reached 5 on the scale it is far too loud for comfortable listening let alone conversation and there are another 25 increments to go by which time the speakers would have long since given up.
Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
Adrian
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Hi, I have the same issues with PCCM+ on 987.1 Boxster. Most PCCM+ installations have this issue, if they use the head unit analogue out, it doesn’t matter which model. It is far worse with the sound plus package (ASK amp). And then there is the white noise on mute.
Regards, Peter.
 
Turn the volume down a bit on your device, but be aware that if you have traffic announcements set or you switch source to radio etc you will get blown away!
 
adriang said:
Hi,
A quick question to those that have had a PCCM Plus installed, how do you find the volume control? I have fitted the unit to my 987 and find the volume is not linear on the scale of 0 - 30. By the time I have reached 5 on the scale it is far too loud for comfortable listening let alone conversation and there are another 25 increments to go by which time the speakers would have long since given up.
Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
Adrian
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I thought there was some "hidden menu" config for amp or similar - the effect your are describing "sounds" like both the head unit and the amplifier are trying to send "amplified" signals - used to happen a lot in old school "new head units" when amplified systems first became a thing.

You need the head unit to send signal level/line out to the amplifier - basically turn off the internal amplifier and let the separate amp do the job.

If that was "just how it is" I would imagine that there would be many disgruntled people demanding a fix from Porsche.
 
malarcy said:
I thought there was some "hidden menu" config for amp or similar - the effect your are describing "sounds" like both the head unit and the amplifier are trying to send "amplified" signals - used to happen a lot in old school "new head units" when amplified systems first became a thing.

You need the head unit to send signal level/line out to the amplifier - basically turn off the internal amplifier and let the separate amp do the job.

If that was "just how it is" I would imagine that there would be many disgruntled people demanding a fix from Porsche.
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The issue of white noise and overactive volume control on PCCM+ fitment (987.1 & 997.1) with ASK amplifier is reported in many discussion threads across different forums.
In answer to your statement, the 986/996 with external amp can be switched to pre-out, as this particular amplifier works on pre-out levels. The 987.1 and 997.1 ASK amplifier is strangely designed to work on speaker load, as it is connected in parallel with some of the standard speakers. The class D amplifier used in the PCCM+ has way too much gain for this configuration, hence the overactive volume control and white noise. The ASK amplifier isn’t that common in the 997.1, so I don’t think Porsche paid too much attention to this configuration. It has been reported, the semi-fix is to reduce the equaliser settings to lowest values across the full range. Porsche heavily refunded my 987.1 PCCM+ fit due to these issues. I have since resolved the issue myself by changing the speaker loading to 16 ohms. Sound quality is now excellent, with a sensible volume range.
 
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Hawkins said:
Hi, I have the same issues with PCCM+ on 987.1 Boxster. Most PCCM+ installations have this issue, if they use the head unit analogue out, it doesn’t matter which model. It is far worse with the sound plus package (ASK amp). And then there is the white noise on mute.
Regards, Peter.
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I have since fixed the white noise and over-amplification with my own modifications.
 
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