Menu toggle

PDK OR MANUAL

tigertrout

Member
I am sure this has been brought up before.What are the views on the pdk vs manual especially on the track.
Thanks
 
We did this a few pages back on the mammoth Spyder thread.

PDK probably better and quicker in daily use but for weekend thrills, many prefer the ultimate control of a manual may be a fair summary.

I'd have either in the right car.
 


I guess the young guys will say PDK and the silver surfers Manual[;)]


Me - I like to Double De-clutch[;)][:D]
 

ORIGINAL: jdpef356

I guess the young guys will say PDK and the silver surfers Manual[;)]
Not all......................the "ultimate control" that Rob refers to made me smile though. Not in some hands it isn't[:D]
 
ORIGINAL: tigertrout

I am sure this has been brought up before.What are the views on the pdk vs manual especially on the track.
Thanks


On the track it has to be PDK IMO more time to concentrate on staying on the track that way [:D]
On the road only one person can say and that one person is YOU!

If my Spyder was a daily driver in London it would have to be PDK
If I was a track day junkie it would have to be PDK

As my garage queen is a dry weekend cruisemobile it has to be short shift manual and after being garage bound for about a month now and having just returned from a fabulous 30 mile blast I am now looking forward to regular outings from now on out [8D]

11' dry and very sunny today
8063020726_568cc695fe_b.jpg




 
PDK or manual is a personal choice, like colour.

The PDK is probably better for 90% of situations. In town it is easier than manual, on the motorway it is more fuel efficient and also allows quicker acceleration when the traffic clears.

The manual may be more involving on a drive which takes in tight, twisty roads. However the PDK with "paddles" includes much of this involvement. Add the Sports Chrono package and, with faster gear changes, it is also very rapid indeed.

Those who deride PDK often seem to do so only after a brief test-drive. I think the PDK requires "learning" to get the best out of it.
 

ORIGINAL: billy1

PDK or manual is a personal choice, like colour.

The PDK is probably better for 90% of situations. In town it is easier than manual, on the motorway it is more fuel efficient and also allows quicker acceleration when the traffic clears.

The manual may be more involving on a drive which takes in tight, twisty roads. However the PDK with "paddles" includes much of this involvement. Add the Sports Chrono package and, with faster gear changes, it is also very rapid indeed.

Those who deride PDK often seem to do so only after a brief test-drive. I think the PDK requires "learning" to get the best out of it.

It also costs 1971 pds more plus 200 ish for the paddles if you are buying the car new.
 
Thanks for the reply guys.I had a go in both the weekend and have to say i found the manual more fun round the country lanes but the pdk was good and very quick gear change.The only trouble was the wife loved the pdk so now have a problem.
 

ORIGINAL: tigertrout

Thanks for the reply guys.I had a go in both the weekend and have to say i found the manual more fun round the country lanes but the pdk was good and very quick gear change.The only trouble was the wife loved the pdk so now have a problem.

What age of car are you looking at and what is its main use going to be, weekend toy, or track car?
If its for your enjoyment on the road then sounds like you should stick with the manual.
If you go for PDK-equipped car make sure it has an extended Porsche warranty (up to 5yrs), but I guess that applies to a manual too. Porsche repairs by a main dealer are expensive.
 

I'm with Chris on this one Andy, but we're just a couple of manual 'box Luddites.

Catch one while you still can because the manufacturers will have the majority of us driving cars with semi-auto double-clutch 'boxes by 2020.

PDK durability shouldn't really be an issue yet but out-of-warranty repairs are likely to be expensive if you have a problem, and limited to the PCs; whereas any competent Indy can repair the manual 'box.

Plus the PDK 'box is a hefty 30kg heavier than the manual and right at the back of the car too (increasing the polar moment of inertia!).

Can't give you any advice as to how to sell the manual 'box to your wife, though if you do take that route, you're more likely to get to drive - result..!

Jeff
 
It will be a weekend car and want to take it down to the nurburg ring later in the year.I had a 964 manual before and did enjoy the driving experience of the manual.
I have driven the 2.9 and 3.4 gen2 and like the extra power in the S.
 

ORIGINAL: tigertrout

It will be a weekend car and want to take it down to the nurburg ring later in the year.I had a 964 manual before and did enjoy the driving experience of the manual.
I have driven the 2.9 and 3.4 gen2 and like the extra power in the S.

Yes, go for the 3.4 S Gen II manual, its got a lot of top end power. The other thing is 6th gear in the manual is set-up for max speed at max power, whereas in the PDK it has to drop down to 6th out of the 7 speeds, academic I know. I also found PDK always dropped into 7th when I didn't want it to.
 

ORIGINAL: spyderman


ORIGINAL: chrisH
I also found PDK always dropped into 7th when I didn't want it to.

Sport mode - now standard on 981 and 991 - cures that issue.

Yes, but Sport mode also means you get the aggressive throttle map which you dont really want pootling around.
Offtopic but the other thing about the 981 that is so impressive is the manual gearbox, its so good I didn't bother to try the PDK.
 

ORIGINAL: chrisH

Yes, but Sport mode also means you get the aggressive throttle map which you dont really want pootling around.

I know what you mean but TBH I didn't really notice the change in throttle response - used it in Sport all the time.
 

ORIGINAL: spyderman


ORIGINAL: chrisH

Yes, but Sport mode also means you get the aggressive throttle map which you dont really want pootling around.

I know what you mean but TBH I didn't really notice the change in throttle response - used it in Sport all the time.

Get a test drive in a 981 manual, what a great drive. Just don't blame me if you end up ordering one[;)]
 
I have been a manual box man for decades, regarding an automatic as a bit softy in a sports car. Then recently my wife bought an Audi A3 Quattro PDK and I was mighty impressed. So I took a punt on a 981 PDK and I love it! When I had my driving day at Silverstone I discovered that clicking a paddle left you much more time to concentrate on staying on the correct line. I doubt I will choose a manual again.
 

ORIGINAL: Brian Halling

I have been a manual box man for decades, regarding an automatic as a bit softy in a sports car. Then recently my wife bought an Audi A3 Quattro PDK and I was mighty impressed. So I took a punt on a 981 PDK and I love it! When I had my driving day at Silverstone I discovered that clicking a paddle left you much more time to concentrate on staying on the correct line. I doubt I will choose a manual again.

Agreed that for track and local use, or commuting the PDK is the best option. As mine is for neither purpose I just cant justify spending over 2k when the manual gearchange in the 981 is so great.
Just a thought, but does the wife really need the Quattro? [;)]
 
The quattro is superb in the snow. During our recent spell of the white stuff my wife was able to drive up the hill from Waitrose, while a new Jag was floundering despite its snow socks. And when it's dry I enjoy the 200 hp 2 litre turbo performance!
 
Rob i second that manual is the only way for me in a sports car. If you like auto's that's far enough but there's not as much involvement in PDK as manual brakes are working harder. But PDK is very popular maybe I'm still a boy racer[:D]



ORIGINAL: jdpef356



I guess the young guys will say PDK and the silver surfers Manual[;)]


Me - I like to Double De-clutch[;)][:D]
 

Posts made and opinions expressed are those of the individual forum members

Use of the Forum is subject to the Terms and Conditions

Disclaimer

The opinions expressed on this site are not necessarily those of the Club, who shall have no liability in respect of them or the accuracy of the content. The Club assumes no responsibility for any effects arising from errors or omissions.

Porsche Club Great Britain gives no warranties, guarantees or assurances and makes no representations or recommendations regarding any goods or services advertised on this site. It is the responsibility of visitors to satisfy themselves that goods and/or services supplied by any advertiser are bona fide and in no instance can the Porsche Club Great Britain be held responsible.

When responding to advertisements please ensure that you satisfy yourself of any applicable call charges on numbers not prefixed by usual "landline" STD Codes. Information can be obtained from the operator or the white pages. Before giving out ANY information regarding cars, or any other items for sale, please satisfy yourself that any potential purchaser is bona fide.

Directors of the Board of Porsche Club GB, Club Office Staff, Register Secretaries and Regional Organisers are often requested by Club members to provide information on matters connected with their cars and other matters referred to in the Club Rules. Such information, advice and assistance provided by such persons is given in good faith and is based on the personal experience and knowledge of the individual concerned.

Neither Porsche Club GB, nor any of the aforementioned, shall be under any liability in respect of any such information, advice or assistance given to members. Members are advised to consult qualified specialists for information, advice and assistance on matters connected with their cars at all times.

Back
Top