PFC 97 fan club
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Neil Haughey
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It took me 2 bucket loads to clean the car after Bedford. The front and sides of the car where covered in brake dust and road grime (310 mile round trip for me). Looking at the spread most of it seems to come from other cars, as much as my own. As an example the front panel was almost as dirty as the door sills.
Count me in if that wasn't obvious.[
] They definitely throw more dust but if that's the price you have to pay then so be it. When I swapped them over from the ebc Yellows I was gobsmacked at how good they were and conversly how poor the ebc's were by comparison. Also contrary to popular belief, they are fine on the road as far as stopping goes although it may be quicker to get up to heat in Australia than 'Sunny England'[] but I'm sure Fen will tell you that they're fine on the road too. I have the 01's on the front and 97's on the back. I've just received my new set to go with the incoming Big Reds. In fact I wanted to go with the whole PFC setup as they make rotors, pads, calipers in house, but it was going to take some time to get adapters for my car.
] They definitely throw more dust but if that's the price you have to pay then so be it. When I swapped them over from the ebc Yellows I was gobsmacked at how good they were and conversly how poor the ebc's were by comparison. Also contrary to popular belief, they are fine on the road as far as stopping goes although it may be quicker to get up to heat in Australia than 'Sunny England'[] but I'm sure Fen will tell you that they're fine on the road too. I have the 01's on the front and 97's on the back. I've just received my new set to go with the incoming Big Reds. In fact I wanted to go with the whole PFC setup as they make rotors, pads, calipers in house, but it was going to take some time to get adapters for my car.
Diver944
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Up to 30 minute sessions. Never had a problem, no fade, no nothing. I've never really understood this obsession with race pads on a road car that has awesome brakes like ours.
I'm about to find out though.
Yes the advise with PFCs is that the dust does eat in to your bodyork and wheels when they get really hot so you must wash the car down after each trackday.
Diver944
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ORIGINAL: Hilux
You`re b**dy joking [
Sorry Paul I'm not [
]I'm only passing on Dave Malings experiences (he is a compulsive NON washer of his car [
]), and his front wheels were pretty much ruined by red hot brake dust from PF97s at the N'ring and also had some pitting down the sills. He's in the US at the moment (getting my PF97s []) but I'm sure he'll give you the low down on his return. I believe they are fine during normal road use as they don't heat up enough so just make sure you keep 'em clean after trackwork
If it is hot dust causing the damage one assumes it is doing it while it is hot so, whether you wash the car/wheels or not isn't going to make much difference.
If it is hot metal dust burning it's self into the surface of the paint the only thing that will get it out is buffing away the paint around it or dragging it out with a clay bar.
And we wonder why racing cars have black wheels [8|]
If it is hot metal dust burning it's self into the surface of the paint the only thing that will get it out is buffing away the paint around it or dragging it out with a clay bar.
And we wonder why racing cars have black wheels [8|]
We actually take a bucket and sponge with us on trackdays and wash down the wheels after every session. It takes 2 minutes for a quick rinse and helps a lot with this issue.
Had another guy who switched to PFC's tell me how unbelieveable they were at his last track day coming from ebc yellows.
Had another guy who switched to PFC's tell me how unbelieveable they were at his last track day coming from ebc yellows.
Davyboy
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I'm back, and I have 2 sets of pads that cost £237 []
These really are fantastic pads, I get around 100 laps of the ring to a set and they have never been anything other that fantastic, even after 4 consecutive laps in 30 degrees heat. I'm just about to fit my 3rd set.
They work fine when cold too, the weight of a 944 will soon heat them up. In the Clio with the same pads you could certainly feel the difference in bite when they had been used a few times.
They do cause a few paint and wheel issues, but I'm content to spend a few ££ on a refurb to have superb brakes.
You can get them from Karl at Racers edge for about $218 a set, although these don't have a brake pad sensor. When I last looked a set from asupplier in the UK would costs about £180.
]These really are fantastic pads, I get around 100 laps of the ring to a set and they have never been anything other that fantastic, even after 4 consecutive laps in 30 degrees heat. I'm just about to fit my 3rd set.
They work fine when cold too, the weight of a 944 will soon heat them up. In the Clio with the same pads you could certainly feel the difference in bite when they had been used a few times.
They do cause a few paint and wheel issues, but I'm content to spend a few ££ on a refurb to have superb brakes.
You can get them from Karl at Racers edge for about $218 a set, although these don't have a brake pad sensor. When I last looked a set from asupplier in the UK would costs about £180.
Neil Haughey
New member
This retailer has some useful comparison info on many of the pad options for our cars;
http://www.stoptech.com/products/high_performance_pads.shtml
Note that PFC 97 seem to have the highest temperature performance of any pad listed. My choice of BHP XPS pad (against stock pads) stacks up very well against many so called race pads, but the PFC 97 specs seem far higher for those seeking out and out performance.
http://www.stoptech.com/products/high_performance_pads.shtml
Note that PFC 97 seem to have the highest temperature performance of any pad listed. My choice of BHP XPS pad (against stock pads) stacks up very well against many so called race pads, but the PFC 97 specs seem far higher for those seeking out and out performance.
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