Suffolk944
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As Frontrunners is fast approaching I thought would just check and see if there are any plans to gather up in a convoy to head over to HQ as in previous years ?
"Pig-pen this here's Rubberduck.."
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pauljmcnulty
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As I'm going to be in the van, I'll limp over on my own and park round the back in shame.
Why is it that my car always goes wrong in time for Frontrunner? [:'(][:'(]
Why is it that my car always goes wrong in time for Frontrunner? [:'(][:'(]
Landroverstormer
New member
I missed The Ace as I had to go to my mothers in Suffolk the weekend of mothers day. If this is local and I'm free then I'd love to come along to a forum meet.
pauljmcnulty
Active member
ORIGINAL: pauly
Do you have to be a member of a club to go to this show [].
Yes is the short answer, but.... if you want to come along as a prospective member, meet the regulars, see the Club's facilities etc. then you're very welcome to do so. [
]I'm quite happy for people to sound the Club out before joining. Of course, anyone who comes for a second year as a non-member would be escorted from the premises by the burly security guards. [
][]The planned drive out in the afternoon is only open to members for obvious reasons - it's all been planned with the local authorities, police etc. The rest of the day is a free opportunity to see what we all enjoy as part of our membership.
pauljmcnulty
Active member
We were deciding between gearbox and torque tube. I'm optimistically hoping for a driveshaft. [&o]
Basically Rick broke my car, as he was leading. [
] At about 20 mph on a LH exit from a dual carriageway I got a really strange "sideways" motion, visible from the car ahead. Followed by lots of knocking noises that got worse over the rest of the journey. Loads of knocking from, I think, the NS rear, worse on over-run and sounding expensive. It will be going in, but the chances of it being ready by Sunday are slim.
So, I'll be there in the Turbo. Toyota Hiace.....[&:]
At least you will be there this year. [8|]
Sounds like Cannell might have to be elsewhere though [
] .I'm doing mid route pictures again so make sure your car is a shiny as a very shiny thing (unless it is black or doom blue as they are difficult to photograph if they are very shiny [
]).Geoff noticed that I could use my roll hoop as a camera mount so we could try some moving shots if anyone is interested - It wont be that exciting to do (I hope) as they should be at about 5mph.
My first one...I'll be going up past Oxford and through Chipping Norton around 0915, but could go Witney/Stow on the Wold to pick up a convoy!!
pauljmcnulty
Active member
No. Partly because the team that have been planning the event for many months see it as a member-benefit. Mostly because an organised rally on public roads, or any event with more than 12 cars, involves everything from liasing with the local authorities and police, to ensuring that the organisers have carried out a full health-and-safety assesment. The pre-booking requirement is part of that process, and membership numbers are essential.
We also have to be very careful. Imagine just how it could play out, with some of these events involving 150 Porsches driving a planned route through country lanes and villages on a Sunday. We are very high-profile and any problems would lead to complaints, press attention etc. You can't just run convoys through the Cotswolds at will! We know the members, and they know how these events are organised.
Not in reply to anyone in particular, I'm very happy for prospective members to use events around Club open days, such as Frontrunner, to come along, meet the people, see the Club's facilities etc. It's a fine line between that, and treating it as an excuse to attend every event without contributing. The same as the forum, if non-members (or guests, as I prefer) treat it with respect it's fine. We've just had to put in masses of work to keep the forums open to guests in the face of a concerted call to make it "members only". You know how I feel about that, and we won this round, but if we have more people using our Club forums to attack us, it will change [&o]. The same with events, if all we get is a load of people arriving who are not Club members and aren't interested in becoming members, the events will be closed to guests. Ultimately, Club members pay for the Club's free events, not non-members.
No, but the tulip route maps will, and can only, be distributed to those who have signed up as participants. You will see (or perhaps not as a non member) there have been other threads relative to organising Group Drives, non timed rallies and the like. Rules, regulations and laws are such that you can't just turn up en mass somewhere and all drive somewhere else.
The organisation of these events doesn't happen over night. Geoff, and his team, put in a considerable amount of time and effort preparing these events, in addition to jumping through the sundry hoops and red tape relative to the rules as noted above. Geoff does this gladly for the benefit and enjoyment of the members.
Non members are more than welcome to come along and see what the event is all about, even more so if you joined as a result. However, gate crashing and tagging along is IMHO just plain rude - it could also get The Club into trouble with the authorities so will not be encouraged or welcomed.
Come to Cornbury, join the Club and, for this event, you may well be able to sign up on the day.
The organisation of these events doesn't happen over night. Geoff, and his team, put in a considerable amount of time and effort preparing these events, in addition to jumping through the sundry hoops and red tape relative to the rules as noted above. Geoff does this gladly for the benefit and enjoyment of the members.
Non members are more than welcome to come along and see what the event is all about, even more so if you joined as a result. However, gate crashing and tagging along is IMHO just plain rude - it could also get The Club into trouble with the authorities so will not be encouraged or welcomed.
Come to Cornbury, join the Club and, for this event, you may well be able to sign up on the day.
xenon
New member
Sorry, I may have been mis-interpreted. I'd agree entirely that for anyone to turn up and wade in without having contributed fiscally or with organisational time would be extremely rude and I certainly wasn't suggesting that anyone should do so. It was just a "as a matter of interest" type question having never attended this kind of thing.
Thanks for the invite nevertheless but, regrettably, I am (temporarily) Porsche-less.
Thanks for the invite nevertheless but, regrettably, I am (temporarily) Porsche-less.
pauljmcnulty
Active member
You can't, to put it simply. I'd guess that if the police got involved for any reason, such as an accident or complaint, or if they saw you and you were doing something silly, they'd take a very dim view. As would your insurers, probably. There's no reason why any insurer would worry about a legally-organized road rally, run by experienced officials and having full police and local authority approval, with no competitive element. Playing games and following other cars for miles might be different?
It's more about being part of the event, though. I'd feel pretty embarrased to be waiting for a group of mates to come along and then following them, leaving them to get back to the rest of their day out at the end. [8|]
Not meaning you, Ian. As I said before I'm talking generally, not about anyone in particular!
ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty
ORIGINAL: pauly
Do you have to be a member of a club to go to this show [
Yes is the short answer, but.... if you want to come along as a prospective member, meet the regulars, see the Club's facilities etc. then you're very welcome to do so. [
I'm quite happy for people to sound the Club out before joining. Of course, anyone who comes for a second year as a non-member would be escorted from the premises by the burly security guards. [
The planned drive out in the afternoon is only open to members for obvious reasons - it's all been planned with the local authorities, police etc. The rest of the day is a free opportunity to see what we all enjoy as part of our membership.
Thanks for the explanation, I'm not anti the club or trying to get a free ride, maybe my perception of owners clubs was tarnished by other club meetings I attended years ago, there seemed to be a clique mentality and too much emphasis on obscure part numbers and polishing [8|], changing the subject how much discount could I get on some KW's if I signed up ?.
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