Prospective 964 RSR owners...

[chfs911]

It drives like a RS but you can push it harder due to the wider wheelbase and 305 slicks. It goes much faster due to the 360hp engine and best of all it sounds amazing.

It also kicks ass! Check out you tube!

It is very easy to drive very fast!

I do want one badly.

 

[paul howells]

Phil can you not get it road legal and insure it.
I know of 2 other unraced rsr,both owners not parting with them though.The spa winner is expensive.
The article has typical journo error ,but on the whole was a good article.
We will have to try and get the 993 and 964 rsr cars together some time,we have a couple of rsr going to spa on the next autotrack days 13th /14th october.

 

[PhilRS]

The RSR and an RS/cup/NGT have the same basic driving genes and feel similar when set up for the track.

The main difference is most obvious in fast corners: The RSR feels more planted/stable because it has a bigger footprint (245 slicks at the front and 305 slicks at the rear on mine) and stiffer and better (dual-springs) shocks. Both cars will gently drift from the back when reaching the limit but the RSR will reach this limit at higher speeds (cf. larger footprint and big wing).

3.8 RSR engines had different bhps depending on the air restrictors of different championships (i.e. between 315 and 370 bhp). I have been in two RSRs so far and both felt similarly lively: They rev more freely than the RS, at higher RPMs, feeling very responsive and less inert--all relative, am not suggesting that the RS engine feels inert! Try a stock 993 RS for that [] The RSR's engine is also noisier with a nice howl at higher RPMs--a bit like the 2.2S.

Gearbox ratios also varied between different cars. Both RSRs I tried had the short ratios (top speed about 250km/h). Short ratios help the engine feeling lively.

Other than that, the sensations are proportional: RSR brakes a bit better, accelerates a bit better, and so forth. But this will not impress an RS driver. The RSR's attitude in fast curves will.

To sum it up, at Spa, the difference per lap between an RSR and a Cup on slicks is about 5-10 sec. But a well-driven 996 Cup is faster than both, especially in corners.

ORIGINAL: 65 mat

So how does it compare to a narrow bodied RS? Does it feel much quicker? Does it feel much heavier and so on...? Would love to hear your comments.[]

 

[PhilRS]

ORIGINAL: paul howells

Phil can you not get it road legal and insure it.
I know of 2 other unraced rsr,both owners not parting with them though.The spa winner is expensive.
The article has typical journo error ,but on the whole was a good article.
We will have to try and get the 993 and 964 rsr cars together some time,we have a couple of rsr going to spa on the next autotrack days 13th /14th october.

Yes Paul I could get car road legal and then insure it. Pbm is car is currently stored near Spa and hopeless to even try this process in (my) motherland... But I have seen a UK road legal 964 RSR with the hydraulic pseudo handbrake... []

Yes, a get together would be fun. 13/14th October tempting...

 

[65 mat]

Thank you for that very informative discription Phil. I particularly enjoyed your comments on the 993 RS![]

 

[Ben Savill]

ORIGINAL: PhilRS

The RSR and an RS/cup/NGT have the same basic driving genes and feel similar when set up for the track.

The main difference is most obvious in fast corners: The RSR feels more planted/stable because it has a bigger footprint (245 slicks at the front and 305 slicks at the rear on mine) and stiffer and better (dual-springs) shocks. Both cars will gently drift from the back when reaching the limit but the RSR will reach this limit at higher speeds (cf. larger footprint and big wing).

3.8 RSR engines had different bhps depending on the air restrictors of different championships (i.e. between 315 and 370 bhp). I have been in two RSRs so far and both felt similarly lively: They rev more freely than the RS, at higher RPMs, feeling very responsive and less inert--all relative, am not suggesting that the RS engine feels inert! Try a stock 993 RS for that [] The RSR's engine is also noisier with a nice howl at higher RPMs--a bit like the 2.2S.

Gearbox ratios also varied between different cars. Both RSRs I tried had the short ratios (top speed about 250km/h). Short ratios help the engine feeling lively.

Other than that, the sensations are proportional: RSR brakes a bit better, accelerates a bit better, and so forth. But this will not impress an RS driver. The RSR's attitude in fast curves will.

To sum it up, at Spa, the difference per lap between an RSR and a Cup on slicks is about 5-10 sec. But a well-driven 996 Cup is faster than both, especially in corners.

ORIGINAL: 65 mat

So how does it compare to a narrow bodied RS? Does it feel much quicker? Does it feel much heavier and so on...? Would love to hear your comments.[]

Having spent most of time at PCF in RSR, went for a brief spin in 993RS, not CS but has uprated suspension, CS flywheel and wing pack, half bolt in cage. Everything in RSR is much more "weighted" and taught......not talking about just steering here as obviously 993 has power steering albeit well balanced....things like gear change, brakes, suspension and of course body.

As Philippe says, acceleration is of course impressive but difference is in the cornering. You can really lean on the rubber and the weight created from the rear wing. I ran 285 Toyo 888's on the rear at PCF - drove it there, bleeding ears after !!! - so haven't personally driven car shod with another 20 of slick rubber, but have been in Philippe's and it is pretty darn insane. The noise is totally intoxicating......just listen to the video clips Phillippe posted.

PCF trip is a fantastic weekend and having people diving inside of you at places like bus stop and rivage tends to focus the mind too !

Will be making an effort to get to the 2009 one that is for sure.