restored rs

[Guest]

hello all. looked at restored lightweight at FREISINGER in karlsuhe in germany--the car was a complete rust bucket, practically unsalvageable from the images on web site, but now back to new. how is something like this generally looked upon in the porsche world and market place? all the best and thanks as usual for the insightful comments. and happy happy for holidays. kenny

 

[Helen Goff]

fantastic another great porsche saved from the great scrap heap.

 

[Alex Postan]

Or is it the perfect replica[]?

 

[ubertub]

this one?

http://www.freisinger-motorsport.de/porsche/uk/Porsche_Restoration_Detail/18.html

 

[Guest]

no, it say lichtbrau, or something similar. thanks

 

[ubertub]

Oops! I meant this one....

http://www.freisinger-motorsport.de/porsche/uk/Porsche_Restoration_Detail/13.html

Well spotted.

 

[early 911]

The rust in the drivers foot well is pretty dramatic . . . but it can all be sorted. Have to say I agree with getting these cars back on the road (although patina is fab - e.g. in the case of the Autofarm RS).

Wonder why the interior was painted purple.

Phil

 

[Nick Moss]

That looks like Dalmation Blue to me, obviously the original colour

 

[Guest]

problem is what are you getting for £185k? its in such a horrid state its more like recreation or a replica built around a number. its called sea fare blue i believe or something to that effect. its just very confusing at those stratospheric levels! what to do!

 

[jamescharnley]

the same could be said for a lot of old classics.

Personally, that RS shell doesn't look 'that' bad, and assuming the work being done is of extremely high quality I can't see there being a problem. I am assuming the correct matching numbers transmission & engine are still with the car?

Thing is , unless you can track down that elusive RS ( or any ealry 911) that still wears original paint & is unrestored & perfect, most cars you look at will have had various degrees of restoration, and who knows what secrets might be hidden beneath the shiny paint. Personally, if spending that kind of money, I would be after that elusive un restored car, or one which had a full on resto from a known specialist.

If you look at the amount of work required ( and the amount of new metal required) in a lot of early 356's , this RS is positively original [][]

 

[jamescharnley]

just checked 'the book' []

chassis: 9113601095
engine: 6631081
trans: 7831070
colour: dalmation blue
interior : lightweight black
Supplied to West Germany

471 conversion

rectractable antenna


Sounds like a nice car []

For a genuine lightweight, £185K doesn't sound daft

 

[vic cohen]

Ur 'dream ' car exists in Europe James ,good news the guy will sell ....bad news £200+ lhd touring unmolested, mint, like new .........surely we re not at £200 yet ?

 

[911hillclimber]

If 2008 is the Year of a Recession those numbers will hurt someone hard!

When will the RS Mania subside?
Will it be when the Magazine articles dry-up?

Each to their own, and thank goodness its a free world!

 

[jamescharnley]

ORIGINAL: vic cohen

Ur 'dream ' car exists in Europe James ,good news the guy will sell ....bad news £200+ lhd touring unmolested, mint, like new .........surely we re not at £200 yet ?

wonder if he would do a swap for a 2.4S [8D][]

 

[vic cohen]

Not a blutorange one .......the colour i think is called coral green ? Its a kinda light green , not chartreuse .

 

[early 911]

Hopefully it will stay Dalmation blue (correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this also referred to as Oxford blue) . . . cool colour.

 

[38F3E1]

The value on this should reflect the quality of the restoration done. And I don't just mean what panels are replaced. It will depend on how well the restorers know RSs and how many of the little RS details are retained or accurately replaced.

I would want a renowned RS expert to look at it before going near it IMO. Harsh I know but a lot of money rides on it.

Ian.

 

[Nick Moss]

Dalmation Blue here, See or Sea (?) Blue in Germany

If I was considering that car I would get over there now with my expert and then get him to go back at certain points in the restoration to satify myself that everything is done right. IMO this is the best way to buy a car, you can have it just the way you want it. That car has had a hell of a whack, it's going to need a lot of work on a jig to get it straight.

 

[vic cohen]

On a good day u cant get better or more knowledgeable than Freissinger senior , dont know junior .......................if anyone has the experience he has , just look through the '70 s books and see how many cars he cared for in the relevant German series .

Totally agree with Nick a ticket to Karlsrurhe is nt much!

 

[oliver]

ORIGINAL: kennys42

hello all. looked at restored lightweight at FREISINGER in karlsuhe in germany--the car was a complete rust bucket, practically unsalvageable from the images on web site, but now back to new. how is something like this generally looked upon in the porsche world and market place? all the best and thanks as usual for the insightful comments. and happy happy for holidays. kenny

Opinions tend to vary.

There are those for whom perfection is the priority, but for others it's originality.

The most desirable cars tend to be those that are immaculate throughout, but as original as possible, with interesting history. Colour is also important and 'Dalmation Blue' probably isn't one of the preferred colours. IMO it held back the sale of the rhd RST at the Silverstone Classic auction this year. The black Carrera RS graphics don't really work with that colour. Jay Kay has one and I think Autofarm fitted white decals [&:]

However, Freisinger have a good reputation and the price seems very fair for an M471. The market for the best cars won't collapse as it did in 1990. The serious collectors have too much wealth to worry about interest rates, house prices or equity markets. Mind you, a major sustained oil crisis could hurt this end of the market.

A full Factory restoration would be the nearest thing to a 'new' RS, but goodness knows what that would cost[:-]