Retractable blind not retracting properly

[zcacogp]

Chaps,

A minor thing but someone here must have the answer - the retractable blind in the boot of my S2 is not retracting as it should. If you pull it out then there is resistance to the pull, but it seems not to want to retract as it should. You can make it work, but it usually takes a couple of 'jerks' to get the mechanism to do what it should.

I know that these things are slightly problemmatical, but is there any way of dismantling it to see what is going on, or is there an easy fix for this? (Or should I accept that it is failing and more of a hassle than it's worth?)


Oli.

 

[zcacogp]

Actually, looking on Clarks Garage I find some helpful instructions for people in exactly my situation. They are here:

http://www.clarks-garage.com/shop-manual/body-28.htm

(Yes, it would have made sense to look before creating this thread. No, I am not blessed with common sense.)

Thanks for reading this far. Have a nice day! []


Oli.

 

[robwright]

I have done this from Clark's before. It was very fiddly and ultimately didn't last. I think this was more to do with the state of my end caps than the information given. I ended up buying a part broken one for a tenner off of andywatson the making one good out of two []

 

[eddieedmo]

on the subject of luggage blinds my S2 has split rear seat backs and does'nt have a blind , does anyone have one I think they are different from std blinds.

Nick []

 

[Mike_Pollock]

I think split seats have 2 separate blinds as the 1 piece attaches only to the seat back and can't work with the split backs

 

[simkin911]

ORIGINAL: eddieedmo

on the subject of luggage blinds my S2 has split rear seat backs and does'nt have a blind , does anyone have one I think they are different from std blinds.

Nick []

These do come up now and again on Ebay. I have a spare in the garage but hadn't thought of selling it simply because they are difficult to replace.

 

[eddieedmo]

if you do think of selling I would be interested.
Thanks

Nick []

 

[robwright]

ORIGINAL: A9XXC

I think split seats have 2 separate blinds as the 1 piece attaches only to the seat back and can't work with the split backs

They have one single blind but it hangs from the side pillars and doesn't screw to the back of the seat. The end pieces are therefore different to non-split seat blinds.

 

[Mike_Pollock]

Thats really interesting Rob, because the one I remember seeing had two separate rollers, which I thought was daft as there would have been a 3" gap down the middle, they are bad enough with the gaps down the sides.

 

[DavidL]

Split seat blinds are fairly rare. They are simply a piece of fabric with a couple of hooks that attach at the boot close end and the other end has a rod through the fabric with 2 elasticated ends that fit into the pillar by the rear seat belt.
I have mine still and it covers the boot ok but its not as useful as the roller blind. You could fit a roller blind to split seats but then they wouldn't be split!
I shall either clean mine or replace the fabric in due course.
I'd imagine that with some due diligence a modern cars rear screen could be found that would have the right dimensions.

 

[zcacogp]

UPDATE: I removed the blind and dismantled it as per the instructions on Clarke's garage. It wasn't at all hard (but a stand drill made drilling out the retaining dimples on the roller much easier.) The only point to note is that the spring part of the mechanism operates on the passenger (left-hand) side of the blind, and therefore you need to take the left hand cap off when you dismantle it. As it was mine was operational but seemed a bit stiff. I applied some light oil to the spring spindle on the left hand end, and some light grease to the peg on the right hand end that locates the centre of the roller, and re-assembled, giving the spring a good 15 or so twists to pre-tension it.

Result: It runs much more freely, retracts properly and feels lighter to use.

Thanks for your input chaps.


Oli.

 

[Frenchy]

The split seat rear cover is £500 plus new from OPC............................Crazy ! as there is nothing to them, they fit as per Rob's post, most 968's have them they also come with a couple of handy storage pockets.
The best thing about the design is that they are fastened to the rear glass hatch and lift with it, prone to sun fade and the material ripping.

 

[zcacogp]

ORIGINAL: Frenchy
The best thing about the design is that they are fastened to the rear glass hatch and lift with it, prone to sun fade and the material ripping.

That's a clever touch. I wonder whether the non-split rear seats cover can be modified to work like this? Can't be any more than making the end of the cover clip to the hatch rather than the body ...


Oli.

 

[Frenchy]

I have a feeling without checking that all the hatches (88 onwards) have the little brackets that the blind clips into, check yours i would hazard a guess that they are there, the the other two pick up points on the inside of the rear pillows can be retro fitted with the bits available cheaply from main dealers.
When lifting the rear hatch take a look at the frame work that would sit approximately where the latch pins are, 2 x little brackets built into the frame, i will bet they are there Porsche would not manufacture 2 different hatches.
Jim.

 

[john944]

As I am not a purist I just removed my broken one as it would not retract and binned it .I dont leave valuables on show anyway !

 

[zcacogp]

ORIGINAL: Frenchy

I have a feeling without checking that all the hatches (88 onwards) have the little brackets that the blind clips into, check yours i would hazard a guess that they are there, the the other two pick up points on the inside of the rear pillows can be retro fitted with the bits available cheaply from main dealers.
When lifting the rear hatch take a look at the frame work that would sit approximately where the latch pins are, 2 x little brackets built into the frame, i will bet they are there Porsche would not manufacture 2 different hatches.

Well I had a gander around the relevant parts today, and it looks like while your theory is good, it's not correct. There are no pick-ups for the luggage blind on the tailgate. However, given the location of the blind clips directly over the tailgate catches, clips could be attached to the tailgate using the same mounting points as are used for the pins.

I guess a good, close look at some parts diagrams would give us the answer as to how this is achieved on later cars.

Out of curiosity, what arrangement do the 968's have? A roller-retractable blind, or a thing more akin to a tent with guy-ropes?


Oli.

 

[vitesse]

My e-bay 924S,1987 model, has 2 small "u" shaped cleats on the hatch frame as well as the normal cleats on the rear panel-I've looked at them frequently wondering why they should be there but without trying the blind on them as I assumed the blind tension would close the hatch if they were used.

 

[944Turbo]

ORIGINAL: zcacogp

ORIGINAL: Frenchy

I have a feeling without checking that all the hatches (88 onwards) have the little brackets that the blind clips into, check yours i would hazard a guess that they are there, the the other two pick up points on the inside of the rear pillows can be retro fitted with the bits available cheaply from main dealers.
When lifting the rear hatch take a look at the frame work that would sit approximately where the latch pins are, 2 x little brackets built into the frame, i will bet they are there Porsche would not manufacture 2 different hatches.

Well I had a gander around the relevant parts today, and it looks like while your theory is good, it's not correct. There are no pick-ups for the luggage blind on the tailgate. However, given the location of the blind clips directly over the tailgate catches, clips could be attached to the tailgate using the same mounting points as are used for the pins.

I guess a good, close look at some parts diagrams would give us the answer as to how this is achieved on later cars.

Out of curiosity, what arrangement do the 968's have? A roller-retractable blind, or a thing more akin to a tent with guy-ropes?


Oli.

My 90 car has them, tabs with rectangular holes and a one piece seat back with roller blind

 

[Eldavo]

I have split seats so obviously have the tabs for the fabric blind.

I bought one in pretty poor condition a year or two ago and my mum had it remade for me for xmas in a more modern black vinyl-fabric.

The original has storage pockets made from furled material press studded to the blind. With the seat backs down you can unfurl these "ears" to cover any items on the rear seats.

There was also a fleecy type blanket that press studded to the back of the blind forming a big storage pocket underneath it.

 

[zcacogp]

ORIGINAL: 944Turbo

ORIGINAL: zcacogp

ORIGINAL: Frenchy

I have a feeling without checking that all the hatches (88 onwards) have the little brackets that the blind clips into, check yours i would hazard a guess that they are there, the the other two pick up points on the inside of the rear pillows can be retro fitted with the bits available cheaply from main dealers.
When lifting the rear hatch take a look at the frame work that would sit approximately where the latch pins are, 2 x little brackets built into the frame, i will bet they are there Porsche would not manufacture 2 different hatches.

Well I had a gander around the relevant parts today, and it looks like while your theory is good, it's not correct. There are no pick-ups for the luggage blind on the tailgate. However, given the location of the blind clips directly over the tailgate catches, clips could be attached to the tailgate using the same mounting points as are used for the pins.

I guess a good, close look at some parts diagrams would give us the answer as to how this is achieved on later cars.

Out of curiosity, what arrangement do the 968's have? A roller-retractable blind, or a thing more akin to a tent with guy-ropes?


Oli.

My 90 car has them, tabs with rectangular holes and a one piece seat back with roller blind

Interesting. Mine doesn't. Here's the points that the blind clips to on the back of the boot:

But there is nothing to clip it to on the boot lid itself.

However there are what could be holes in which to mount something that would do that job - perhaps.


Oli.