RHD Silver RS for sale

[Barty964rst]

ORIGINAL: jason

996 GT3RS must be one of the rarest of all the RS?

Are you forgetting your 964RS variant and all time Favourite again? The Oxymoron RS!!! 1 of 7

 

[paul howells]

Fairly sure all the 993 CS were SS chassis numbers,yet to find a T chassis.
Dont forget the 993rsr,22 cars made,found 15 of them so far,all in series with the cup car.
The 993 cup was around before the rs for the 94 season,i thought there was a 964 cup before the rs also!?

How many of the r and rsr versions of the water cooled thing-is are there,as porsche have been knocking them out big time,feel sorry for the guys who buy them at the start of season,and then cant give them away because of the new model.

 

[h_____]

Paul, it seems most of the big teams have sold the car before the end of the season, partly for this reason. Buyers are lined up shortly after the season begins! Its monopoly money drops though. I see some cracking looking wet cars in the back of Autosport a couple of weeks ago for 50K and only a couple of years old. I dont have the balls to buy a piece of machinery like that!

 

[paul howells]

H,thats what i meant by cant give them away,120k plus drop in one season for a rsr.They used to cost more as a front runner!
Dont blame you for not going for one,great cars,but normal story applies with buying race cars most of the time.
A winning car of some significant race is always worth a look at the right money.

 

[vic cohen]

Totally agree with Paul , + 996 or 7 rsr IMO cost a fortune to run either for a full seasons racing or a few track days ............totally disproportionate to 993 and before ...........................

 

[carreraboy]

ORIGINAL: jason

Never seen the spec sheet but I think many people BELIEVE a 964RS is very similar to a Carrera 2 when in fact some of the differences are......


Suspension:
- Suspension lowered 50mm front, 40mm rear
- Adjustable Bilstein dampers
- 40% stiffer springs
- Uniball solid top mounts
- Wheels 7.5" front and 9" rear Cup design magnesium alloy (ET55)
- Adjustable anti roll bars front (24mm, 5 way adjustable) and rear (18mm 3-way adjustable).
- Modified rear trailing arms "" shorter/limited travel
- Rear control arm adjustment plates are modified and are different left and right.
- Stiffer Lower Control Arm Bushings

Engine/Drivetrain:
- "˜Blueprinted' M64/03 engine which is a standard Carrera 2, 3.6l but using matched pistons and barrels.
- Single mass flywheel
- Single belt fan/alternator drive/pulley
- Flattened suction oil line "" oil tank to engine "" improves tyre clearance
- Solid rubber engine mounts
- Revised ECU adding 10bhp making 260bhp total (more aggressive timing advance characterstics)
- Hard rubber transmission mounts
- G50/10 gearbox with limited slip diff (Standard 20-100% Variable lock)
- Revised gearing: Shorter first and second gear ratios:
- First: 3.154
- Second: 1.695
- Third: 1.407
- Fourth: 1.086
- Fifth: 0.868
- Syncronizers made of steel, Modified for Quick Shifts
- Ring & pinion ration 3.444 (standard C2 is 3.333)
- Gear stick slightly taller and offset for a smoother shift ( offset 10 mm to left, 28 mm taller)
- Shift lever ratio - 3.4:1 (standard C2 is 4.0:1)
- Shift lever travel smaller - ± 52 mm (standard C2 is ± 62 mm)
- Driveshafts on the RS are hollow whereas standard C2 ones are solid
- RS driveshafts are longer to allow the use of centrelock wheels.
- Lightweight aluminium hubs

Braking system:
- Larger master cylinder diameter: 25.4 mm (standard C2 is 20.64 mm)
- Proportioning Valve Switch Pressure higher - 55 bar (standard C2 is 45bar)
- 3.3 Turbo brakes at the front and sport four pot callipers and drilled and ventilated discs.
- Rear brakes have four pot callipers but with smaller pistons
- Brake discs are cross-drilled and ventilated
- ABS is standard but features a modified ECU program.
- C4 style high pressure braking system with hydraulic booster / electric servo pump

Steering:
- No power steering on LHD

Body:
- Stiffened seam-welded shell - Seam welding and plating of the rear suspension mounting points, rear floor area, transmission and stabilizer mounts
- Removal of rear seat brackets, seat belt mounts, and trim brackets
- Aluminium front bonnet
- Aluminium stay to hold up front bonnet (no gas struts)
- No under-bonnet light
- Thinner gauge glass except to the front screen (3 mm versus 4.7 mm)
- Lighter doors with no reinforcing beams
- Wings have rolled arches
- Different middle section on rear bumper
- Front bumper has no headlight washers
- No bumper shocks
- Battery cut-off switch
- 36 AH battery
- Simplified wiring harness
- No central locking
- 77 litre standard or 92 litre long-range fuel tank
- Smaller 1litre capacity windscreen washer reservoir
- Front fog lights blanks (many RSs now have brake cooling ducts in place of the foglight blanks)
- No underseal
- 3 year anti-rust warranty
- Installation/modification of mounts for:
- Master electrical switch above the battery
- 1-liter windshield bottle in trunk
- Electro-hydraulic brake system
- Alternate mounting bracket for the ABS brain above the original location.
- Front tow hook
- Smaller 36-AH battery
- Inertial reel covers for the front seat belts

Interior:
- Leather covered lightweight Recaro bucket seats
- no back seats
- Lightweight thin-weave carpets with RS logo on rear bulkhead
- Minimal soundproofing
- RS steering wheel (RS logo horn pad)
- Lightweight door panels, no door bins, pull strap to open door.
- Radio optional - cars came with provision for fitting but no speakers and a simple blanking plate to cover the hole
- No interior light
- No heated rear screen (although the element there's no wiring or switch)
- No air-conditioning
- No sunroof
- No
- Manual winding windows
- Shortened front compartment carpet
- Simplified plastic cover for the front compartment bulkhead

Also Richard ... there was the 3.8 964RS

 

[Richard Dawson]

That is cheating..... Though they are worth mega money

Reminds me of the yellow one I didn't buy in 2000

 

[ChrisW]

ORIGINAL: vic cohen

Totally agree with Paul , + 996 or 7 rsr IMO  cost a fortune to run either for a full seasons racing or a few track days ............totally disproportionate to 993 and before ...........................

Not sure I agree for track days Vic.

I'm still shaking down my 2002 GT3r (S2) --- but it's cost me less to run this year than my GT3 MkI !!

Just rookied a good set of slicks wearing the inside shoulders off them and trying not to flat spot them ...

 

[carreraboy]

ORIGINAL: Richard Dawson

That is cheating..... Though they are worth mega money

Reminds me of the yellow one I didn't buy in 2000

And it's little friend []

 

[vic cohen]

Wish u luck Chris , i d planned to run my 993 Cup with usual money for regular oil changes,Brakes and tyres thru the year.......as most know slight mishap at Oulton in March, did nt quite happen like that ! However i believe it can [ fingers crossed for 2011] ......................have seen the Motor Sport parts prices for later model Cup Cars and was frightened !

Talking to friends in Germany they have felt the cost too..............

 

[ChrisW]

Well I am gonna find out --- as a matter of interest GT3R parts have been reduced in price by 65% --- they have too many and decided this was better than binning them ??

 

[vic cohen]

Get in there....BTW they re never quite sure on part numbers , somone binned their catalogues at Weissach and there s no one really knows whats what with the early cars !

If u need a contact pm me , found real helpful guy ...also good Enlish

 

[carreraboy]

ORIGINAL: ChrisW

Well I am gonna find out --- as a matter of interest GT3R parts have been reduced in price by 65% --- they have too many and decided this was better than binning them ??

Buy the lot O'wise one ... before they rocket and your Cup Car is a collectable []

 

[ChrisW]

Let's just hope we all stay lucky --- particularly with the gearbox part Vic.

How's that going ?

If not, is there any reasonable possibility of having one made at a sensible price ?

 

[vic cohen]

Gearbox was the nightmare of a lifetime ......................worst experience in over 35 years of Pork!..............as a couple of people said on the day, something was moving inside that shud nt be ...................after much tribulation it came down to wear on the g/box bearing plate[ i did nt even know what that was .....u d be surprised not many people do !] This was compounded by finding out the exact state of what i had really bought when taken apart..........it really is nt the stuff for a Forum and i am not into international litigation ! Have spent that money on the car instead!

Gear sets are IRO £1500 a set, one of the problems was getting Weissach to find the right ones ............i repeat their records are nt what they were! This compounded with their suppliers machining things to wrong spec , not as per drawings ..................did nt exactly help. Once i got the right guy at Weissach things got easier but anything over 10 years old ur in the danger zone !

Tobe clear Weissach made a very generous cash gesture for all their mistakes and the litigation wud be against the so called eminent German builder .............everyone else along the line has done their best to help me

Now looking forward to following on great end to 2010, 3 stonking good days out before the snows , Silverstone , Donni and Goodwood in 10 days, with even better 2011 before i get too old !

 

[Laurence Gibbs]

I think the word "adjustable" when talking of the Bilstiens is refering to the spring platforms not bump/rebound .

 

[roygarth]

ORIGINAL: johnnyb

Looks very nice. Interesting to see that it was specced with a bucket for the driver and a sport seat for the passenger.... unless of course one or the other was fitted later.

Presumably the original owners missus insisted on it...[]

 

[clubsport]

ORIGINAL: roygarth

ORIGINAL: johnnyb

Looks very nice. Interesting to see that it was specced with a bucket for the driver and a sport seat for the passenger.... unless of course one or the other was fitted later.

Presumably the original owners missus insisted on it...[]

Spot on, from what I was told by the second owner in 2006, who I understand bought it from a friend.

Not a bad combination for an M002, certainly practical.

 

[PhilRS]

Vic, sounds like a nightmare! Was not aware of your problems. Glad they are now fixed! Santa will be spanked.

ORIGINAL: vic cohen

Gearbox was the nightmare of a lifetime ......................worst experience in over 35 years of Pork!..............as a couple of people said on the day, something was moving inside that shud nt be ...................after much tribulation it came down to wear on the g/box bearing plate[ i did nt even know what that was .....u d be surprised not many people do !] This was compounded by finding out the exact state of what i had really bought when taken apart..........it really is nt the stuff for a Forum and i am not into international litigation !  Have spent that money on the car instead! 

Gear sets are IRO £1500 a set, one of the problems was getting Weissach to find the right ones ............i repeat their records are nt what they were! This compounded with their suppliers machining things to wrong spec , not as per drawings ..................did nt exactly help. Once i got the right guy at Weissach things got easier but anything over 10 years old ur in the danger zone !

Tobe clear Weissach made a very generous cash gesture for all their mistakes  and the litigation wud be against the so called eminent German builder .............everyone else along the line has done their best to help me

Now looking forward to following on great end to 2010, 3 stonking good days out before the snows , Silverstone , Donni and Goodwood in 10 days,  with even better 2011 before i get too old !

 

[vic cohen]

Thks mate , was down on power at PCF days , had been fitted with wrong ECU............of course last thing we even thought to look at instant power gain 70BHP ! Then the g /box and just loads more .........................now as Mr Schmitz had once suggetsed the best Cup Car in the world HAHAHAHA..................none of it was down to him i hope i made clear............................really brilliant now its going ...as u wud know Phil