RMS PROBLEMS

[BLONDELAWMAN]

Just how big a (potential) problem could this be on a new 997?

I've been reading a few threads on the issue and it's put me right off.

Is the issue ongoing or have Porsche sorted it now for new-builds?

 

[Guest]

RMS interesting. My 2002 996 sold at 40K miles no problem. Jan 2005 997s just the one at 25K miles now at 42K miles and still holding. Wifes Boxster 1997 just the one at 30Kmiles now 7 years on and 60K miles no problems. Always dealt with under warranty extended or otherwise so no big deal. Biggest worry oil marks on the drive!! Incidently when they did my 997s RMS(main daily car) I had a very handy Cayenne to use and got all that rubbish to the dump that I had built up!

Regards

Jon

 

[nsm3]

Had mine replaced at a routine visit for something else at about 14k miles and it hadn't even got to the stage where it was dripping on the floor - so I hadn't noticed it myself.

 

[Ronnie C]

my 05 997C2S had RMS at 7500 miles.

Was a heavy oil burner from day 1 with my exhaust pipes getting extremely sooty very soon after each time they were cleaned.

Now at 12,049 it's having a replacement engine (3 weeks without my car). I was told that the offside bank cylinders had very heavily scored bores which was why I was going through Mobil1 at such a high rate.

If you are seriously considering this type of new car (911, AMV8, BMW Mcar, etc) and reliability is something important to you, do some research on the internet to see the number of recalls each model has had. Then phone around to see what the dealers tell you. This will give you an idea as to how (dis)honest or (un)knowledgeable each dealership is.

 

[Mark_Bennett]

Yike - that sounds bad Ronnie... []

RMS shouldn't have anything to do with the exhaust soot, or the scored bores either.
The RMS is a (usually) small oil leak, that's all.

 

[BLONDELAWMAN]

I think at the better part of £90k, reliability isn't just something that's important to me; it shouln't even cross my mind, no?!

 

[YvesD]

The possibility of RMS failure doesnt bother me one little bit, that is what the warranty is for afterall. Engine procedures are a routine job for Porsche so that shouldnt be a concern either.

What ever you buy and at any price level there will be problems, we just hear about the very small number of problem cars and not the vast majority that dont have problems.

Relax and get your order in !

Yves

 

[YvesD]

ORIGINAL: YvesD

The possibility of RMS failure doesnt bother me one little bit, that is what the warranty is for afterall. Engine out procedures are a routine job for Porsche so that shouldnt be a concern either.

What ever you buy and at any price level there will be problems, we just hear about the very small number of problem cars and not the vast majority that dont have problems.

Relax and get your order in !

Yves

Sorry, meant to say 'engine out' procedures in the original post.

 

[BLONDELAWMAN]

Thanks Yves!

 

[Rob Edwards]

Hi
Mine had the engine replaced after 3 months and has never missed a beat since - it's a daily driver and is as reliable as any car I've ever owned (uh-oh, that's done it now!). It gets a pamper wash once a week but in the meantime it's covered in road grime, mud and assorted crud and detritus, and I actually like it like that - it shows that Porsches aren't feeble highly strung cars made out of cardboard and fairy dust but are resilient and tough. When's the last time you saw a Fezza or a Lambo like that? Exactly.
I wouldn't worry too much about the RMS issue -that's what warranty and extended warranties are there for[]
Buy and ENJOY!!![]
Rob

 

[BLONDELAWMAN]

Thanks Rob: just a little bit of Fairy Dust in the mix then!

 

[RICH.P]

Saw 997 turbo the other day, 800 miles on clock having new engine installed.[]
Don't no what the problem was.

 

[BLONDELAWMAN]

All you lot talking about new engines makes me want to go and buy an AMG 55 instead...

 

[Rob Edwards]

Hi
Interestig that you're considering an AMG 55 - I came very close when I bought my 987S, but ultimately because it was a Merc I thought I'd wait until my 50's[]!
Build was good, but not as good interior build as Porsche, and apart from the funky magnesium backed seats and other trim, it could have been a 350SLK.
Different animals, and the merc build quality isn't what it was in the 1980s and early 90's unfortunately. My father in laws SL55 and E55 have both had their share of niggly recalls and bits falling off.
Yes, it's a very fast V8 and it's auto, so just point and squirt, but (IMHO) not such a drivers car as the Porsche.
If you buy the Merc, you'll regret it next time you see a Porker!![]
BUY IT and LOVE IT!![][]
Rob

 

[BLONDELAWMAN]

No doubt about it Rob, you're right.

Anyhow, my BM spent more time during the first year of it's active life in the shop than on the tarmac: I just expected things to be a little different if they originated from Stuttgart.

If I don't do it soon, then i fear i'm going to get caught in the 2 versus 4 dilemma again and if that happens, i may as well find the nearest multi-story...........(nearly as bad as the 'rear wiper' debate!

Ian

 

[Alex L]

ORIGINAL: Ronnie C

my 05 997C2S had RMS at 7500 miles.

Was a heavy oil burner from day 1 with my exhaust pipes getting extremely sooty very soon after each time they were cleaned.

Now at 12,049 it's having a replacement engine (3 weeks without my car). I was told that the offside bank cylinders had very heavily scored bores which was why I was going through Mobil1 at such a high rate.

I also go through Mobil1 at a very high rate, you think I should get my car checked out? It's also just passed the 12,000 mile mark.

 

[YvesD]

Alex,

Check out the owners manual first. 'Normal' oil consumption can be quite high on this engine.

Mine is quite frugal on the oil having only sipped around a litre in 5000 miles.

Yves

 

[Alex L]

I think i am up to 10L after 10,000 miles. So a litre per 1000 miles!!

I am just trying to find what the owners manual says...

 

[YvesD]

I am just trying to find what the owners manual says...

You might be surprised !

 

[Alex L]

This is taken from the Rennteam site on a poll taken there for oil consumption. I guess I either drive too aggressively (which isn't really the case) or I have a problem as I am on about 1.000 ml per mile!

For those who probably don't drive their cars especially hard, the mean oil consumption is 0.273 ml per mile (or 0.171 ml per km). The standard deviation is 0.119 ml per mile (or 0.074 ml per km). To be roughly 95% confident that your car's oil consumption is normal, based upon the 17 responses, it should be between 0 and 0.511 ml per mile (or between 0 and 0.319 ml per km). Again, this is a crude number and the sample size is small, but it seems to make sense.

For those who apparently drive their cars more aggressively (a sample size of only 5), the mean oil consumption is 0.73 ml per mile (or 0.456 ml per km), with a standard deviation of 0.12 ml per mile (or 0.075 ml per km). To be roughly 95% confident that your car's oil consumption is normal for an aggressive driver, it should be between 0 and 0.97 ml per mile (or between 0 and 0.606 ml per km).