roll cages
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944 man
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Someone mentioned a GB from Rollcentre but I think that they ended up buying a product supplied by Peter (user name PJS917). This is not a rear cage in the conventional sense, it bolts into the car using seatbelt mounting points. Its quite minty, although it did appear to be nicely finished.
I think that John Sims has one; so he might re-post his pictures.
Simon
I think that John Sims has one; so he might re-post his pictures.
Simon
lali
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IMHO if you are serious about driving your car in situations where you think you might need a cage then get a full cage. The half cage is better than no cage but if you get T-boned then it wont offer you any more protection than you have already. If you really think you're going to roll the car then as I said, get a full one.
You could go half and half... welded in rear and bolt on front ( easy to take out door bars when you're not on track etc.. ) Speak to RollCentre I'm sure it was one of there cages I saw in thsi configuration.
I think you can still get an SD cage ( full bolt in ) from SD and then you need to find your local SD approved fitter. If you want a welded in cage then EMC will still do that for you.
I understand that these things come down to personal choice but I wouldnt trust one of those "bolts to the seat belt points" contraptions as far as I could insert one where the sun don't shine.
You could go half and half... welded in rear and bolt on front ( easy to take out door bars when you're not on track etc.. ) Speak to RollCentre I'm sure it was one of there cages I saw in thsi configuration.
I think you can still get an SD cage ( full bolt in ) from SD and then you need to find your local SD approved fitter. If you want a welded in cage then EMC will still do that for you.
I understand that these things come down to personal choice but I wouldnt trust one of those "bolts to the seat belt points" contraptions as far as I could insert one where the sun don't shine.
944 man
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If you know that youre going to crash, then you need a weld in cage: Id be speaking to EMC for that. Kevin offered me his last bolt in cage at a very (very) keen price, but other people have told me since that he has them in stock again, so Id suggest asking him directly. The RC cages are cheaper, but theyre not as secure: you pay youre money..........
Neil Haughey
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He definitely said he had some bolt ins when I was talking to him about it a couple of months back. As Lali said though this is a very slippery slope. Personally I don't like cars that are half hearted, either keep a car nice and road spec or make a proper track/race tool and that means welded in cage. I know others feel differently so as I said this is only MHO.
Surprised nobody has mentioned these. Right on your doorstep. Look great and good value from what I can see. So much so that I'm considering having one shipped out as they're so much cheaper than we pay for a custom cage in Sydney.
http://www.customcages.co.uk/homepage
Here's a Rennlist link to a guy in Thailand of all places who has installed one in his very nice project racecar.
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/924-931-944-951-968-forum/493013-another-944-project.html
http://www.customcages.co.uk/homepage
Here's a Rennlist link to a guy in Thailand of all places who has installed one in his very nice project racecar.
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/924-931-944-951-968-forum/493013-another-944-project.html
944 man
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CustomCages only offer multipoint weld-in cages, no bolt-ins... Demon-Thieves offer Sparco and CC IIRC. As the OP is considering a rear cage its reasonable to conclude that he is looking at bolt-in types only, so CC arent suitable and Sparco are prohibitively expensive at approaching £1,000.
Well the OP didn't specify if they wanted bolt in or welded. I'm with Neil on this. Do it once, do it right but I get that this is probably the single most definitive line in the sand in regards to road registered / track cars. You don't want to be driving with a cage everyday so it is a big decision. Our road rules are getting more and more Police regulated that it's hard to enjoy having a nice car now. They're about to bring in a law here that if you get done for 2 speeding offences, you loose your licence. Yet they never actually discuss improving driver training as a matter of course. It's all just revenue and control. So I am about to turn my car into a track tool and will quite possibly go for one of these Custom Cages. They look very good from what I can see.
Any opinions on them?
Neil Haughey
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Very true John, I ended up having to get competition car insurance for mine, similar to a rally car. Doubled my premiums but it may come back down again in the future, but then its a toss up really as to if I keep the car on the road. Vast majority of the insurers I asked wouldn't touch it, I guess one worry is that you might crash in a race and then claim latter that you had a prang on the road.
Some of the cars in the PCGB championship are using the Custom Cages cage, its massively engineered compared to the Safety Devices design, and ISTR is around 10 to 15 Kg heavier. From memory at least one of the front running 968's had this cage. It looks good, very much along the lines of a touring car cage.
Some of the cars in the PCGB championship are using the Custom Cages cage, its massively engineered compared to the Safety Devices design, and ISTR is around 10 to 15 Kg heavier. From memory at least one of the front running 968's had this cage. It looks good, very much along the lines of a touring car cage.
I see that it's also available in 'T45' whatever that is? Titanium? Meant to be a lot lighter but who knows how much more expensive. I sent them an email but they may not be bothered replying to me down here. If anyone else is making enquiries with them I'd be thankful if the info is shared.
Cheers
Cheers
Neil Haughey
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T45 is AFAIK just a high grade steel alloy, significantly lighter then CDS tubing but also much more expensive.
lali
New member
I think its more likely to do with the fact that an impact at even very low speeds could see the driver 'nut' the cage and end up living the rest of his life considerbly disabled. i.e a massive 3rd party pay out.
I can vouch for the amount of trouble you have to go through to get a car with a cage insured, I have found that only Mannings will touch my car with all of its mods.
I certainly couldnt entertain the idea of having a caged car as my daily driver, the getting in and out is just sucha PITA that I'd end up setting fire to the car after a week!
Peter Empson
PCGB Member
I haven't had a problem insuring my half cage, didn't seem to load my premium at all, so I'm very much of the opinion that Lali is correct about head injuries from the cage itself.
For me this has been the best compromise, I can bolt in front extensions to the cage if I want them at a later date (and doing it at the trackday would solve the insurance issue) and it gives me a sturdy location to mount the harness to. Plus I can only just get out of the car in a garage without the door bars...
For me this has been the best compromise, I can bolt in front extensions to the cage if I want them at a later date (and doing it at the trackday would solve the insurance issue) and it gives me a sturdy location to mount the harness to. Plus I can only just get out of the car in a garage without the door bars...
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