RSR Exhaust Enquiry

leesweeney · Mar 23, 2006

I am after a bit of help from anyone who has had the RSR mufflers fitted to their 993.

My problem is I am a new convert to 993's having just acquired a C2S. My 996 (yes I have seen the light) previously had the factory fitted sports exhaust and sounded simply awsome. By comparison the 993 is somewhat muted.

I have just gone to the expense of fitting new Dansk mufflers and it does sound better and I understand they are damn good exhausts. However, the more I drive the more I feel a little disappointed as the rest of the 993 package is simply outstanding.

I have had the RSR's recommended as they are reasonably priced (important when you bought a new Dansk system only 2 days ago!) but apparently sound simply fantastic.

Can anyone confirm this. Are they UK road (ie MOT) legal?

Thanks in anticipation of your help.

Charlie_McLaughlin · Mar 23, 2006

Lee,

I am also in the same predicament, I have enquired at Carnewal (Gert) as to the cost and suitability for UK trackdays, where the limit is 105db. He suggests that the RSR's are about 105db and we can have them for 3 weeks trial. I am seriously tempted, the sound bytes on a previous thread sound very good indeed. I even got a friend to do a drive pass in my car, with me standing on the side of the road to try to see what my standard exhausts sounds like. I think they need beefing up.

Cheers

Charlie

jason · Mar 23, 2006

Used to have RSRs on my 993 and were perfect.

Oh and get that airboxed drilled....

jmspear · Mar 23, 2006

Definitely road legal, but might not make 100db sound test at tracks like castle combe if you are track day inclined. Mine tested between 99db and 103 depending on the ambient temperature, so would be OK for all tracks bar Combe. The way round it for me was to get some auxillary cans welded to some spare tips, then if necessary just replace the tips with the cans and hey presto 95 db.

Just as an aside, the RSR's are great but i have gone to a Cargraphic system which has a truly awesome sound, really deep bass, like it even more but pricy - i got mine off ebay so was OK

HTH

John

968er · Mar 24, 2006

I had the RSR's on my C2 and they are an improvement, but I found that they still did not give me the noise I wanted. Have had Fabspeed Maxflo's fitted for the last year and I love them!

kennyboy · Mar 24, 2006

ha ha want more already Lee? - just don't come round to mine as I'll change too!

also IMO you don't need to drill the air box if you already have motorsound intake fitted.

Guest · Mar 24, 2006

I've been giving serious thought to the upgrade myself after hearing the sound bite mentioned above.

I don't suppose there are any readers of this forum up in Newcastle upon Tyne who have RSRs fitted to their 993 so that I could do a back to back comparision with my standard mufflers?

leesweeney · Mar 24, 2006

Wow, what a response. Thanks for all your advice.

On balance I thnk I will go down the RSR route give the expense already laid out on the Dansk mufflers. I like the idea of the 3 week trial so it seems silly not to give it a go.

So if anyone out there would like a pair of 3 day old Dansk Mufflers which cost me £715 fitted (and will slightly improve the sound of your 993) please make me a half reasonable offer and they are yours.(when the RSR's arrive).

Thanks again for the help and advice. The Forum really is exceptional.

PS Kenny. Had a drive round after we met yesterday and the Dansk system does sound better than before but still some way off the full sports exhaust I had on the 996. Best not listen to the RSR's, I don't want your fiance sending the boys round to sort me out.

kennyboy · Mar 24, 2006

OK lee I promise.... I think the 100 cell cats I have planned may rule out RSR's from a volume point of view anyway!

An idea - presumably you'll be sending gert your old oem boxes as part-ex on the RSR's.... if so then might be an idea to keep the lovely Dansks in case the RSR's do end up too loud for certain things/tracks?..... bearing in mind you won't have any spare mufflers as you do now.

But then again £700 is a lot of money just to be sat in the garage eh?

leesweeney · Mar 25, 2006

ORIGINAL: kennyboy

OK lee I promise.... I think the 100 cell cats I have planned may rule out RSR's from a volume point of view anyway!

An idea - presumably you'll be sending gert your old oem boxes as part-ex on the RSR's.... if so then might be an idea to keep the lovely Dansks in case the RSR's do end up too loud for certain things/tracks?..... bearing in mind you won't have any spare mufflers as you do now.

But then again £700 is a lot of money just to be sat in the garage eh?

It's not a bad idea other than the complete waste of money. I might sell the Dansk mufflers and keep the oem - that costs 300 Euro more but at least isn't a complete wste of the Dansks.

leesweeney · Mar 25, 2006

ORIGINAL: jason

Used to have RSRs on my 993 and were perfect.

Oh and get that airboxed drilled....

As Kenny says, I too have the Motorsound airbox which does sound lovely and looks pretty trick with its chrome intake.

laura · Mar 26, 2006

We have RSR mufflers and love them. They make a super noise at tick over and under power but are really unobtrusive when motorway cruising. We were at Curborough yesterday with the Audi club and several people asked what silencer system we had. Incidentally, the noise test came out at 102.

Laura

laura · Mar 26, 2006

By the way, Lee, I forgot to mention it takes 100 miles or so to get the full effect of the sound - the electricery has to get used to it or something, so use your 3 week trial period to get full effect. Gert is really easy to deal with so you can have full confidence there

Guest · Mar 26, 2006

I have RSRs. Sound absolutely gorgeous. Marvellously responsive to the throttle. As L&C say, no motorway boominess.

Recommended.

leesweeney · Mar 26, 2006

ORIGINAL: laura

By the way, Lee, I forgot to mention it takes 100 miles or so to get the full effect of the sound - the electricery has to get used to it or something, so use your 3 week trial period to get full effect. Gert is really easy to deal with so you can have full confidence there

Thanks Laura. I have emailed Gert a couple of questions and he always replies promptly and does indeed seem a pleasure to deal with (his written English is also perfect and a damn site better than mine!) RSR's ae definitely the way to go and I will get them ordered next week.

Many thanks

leesweeney · Mar 26, 2006

ORIGINAL: std70040

I have RSRs. Sound absolutely gorgeous. Marvellously responsive to the throttle. As L&C say, no motorway boominess.

Recommended.

Thanks Peter,

As per my reply to Laura I am now completely sold on the RSR idea.

angry · Mar 27, 2006

Hi all,been reading this thread with interest,and i think im sold on the rsrs as well(been thinking about them for a while).
I am a nurburgring regular,is anybody else here?do you reckon i will get stopped for being too noisy??they do most tests when it is busy and seem to pick you out by ear first before they do the proper test???
Cheers Dan

DavidR · Mar 28, 2006

Hi all.

Another option....

The RSRs are an impressive setup, well made and a great customer service but for me, not quite tuneful enough.

I took a spare set of silencers and welded a 1" diameter pipe between the cat and tip pipe - akin to the 996 PSE.

The results are slightly more noise in car, but a much harsher and in my mind more tuneful noise outside. No boominess, no drone and it only cost me £40...

Video file here...

http://media.putfile.com/RSRs-vs-Modified-Muffler

First car is a 97 C2S with motorsound airbox and RSRs. Second car is a 96 C4 with motorsound airbox and my modified silencers...

Cheers!

mbrands · Mar 28, 2006

second car does sound better IMHO...

leesweeney · Mar 29, 2006

ORIGINAL: DavidR

Hi all.

Another option....

The RSRs are an impressive setup, well made and a great customer service but for me, not quite tuneful enough.

I took a spare set of silencers and welded a 1" diameter pipe between the cat and tip pipe - akin to the 996 PSE.

The results are slightly more noise in car, but a much harsher and in my mind more tuneful noise outside. No boominess, no drone and it only cost me £40...

Video file here...

http://media.putfile.com/RSRs-vs-Modified-Muffler

First car is a 97 C2S with motorsound airbox and RSRs. Second car is a 96 C4 with motorsound airbox and my modified silencers...

Cheers!

Thanks for the advice David. I have gone with the RSR's as they seem to be just about spot on for my needs. Your modification seems a very economical alternative though.

Cheers