Running in advice - what's the truth

[okellyt]

The beast also passed 1865 miles today - offically run in then,

Straight from Millbrook stock C2S back into the X51 upgraded version.

Even just using up to 6000 rpm its still faster - back to back there was a noticable greater push from 3000 that just gets stronger and the bark from the PSE is sublime.

Verdict - the x51 is noticibly faster thant he C2S ( and the ones I drove today had appreciable more miles on them so should ahve been quicker). Definately worth the cash, given the PSE is an absolute no brainer anyway.

Never did get a definative answer on the running in bit but now its racked up the miles to be offically run in its B""dy fast and sounds even better the higher the revs with PSE on.

 

[Adam2S]

ooooo, sounds fun - Im going to Milbrook on Thursday this week - Im excited already!

Any tips on what to say, do or ask for etc???

 

[YvesD]

ORIGINAL: Adam2S

Any tips on what to say, do or ask for etc???

Simple,

As much time on the Alpine circuit as possible !

Awesome.

 

[dereksharpuk]

ORIGINAL: Adam2S

ooooo, sounds fun - Im going to Milbrook on Thursday this week - Im excited already!

Any tips on what to say, do or ask for etc???

Lucky chap.

Having done Millbrook 4 times (yes really) I totally agree that you should go for as much time on the Alpine as possible. The high speed oval is fun and do have a short go. See just how fast you dare drive... I got to 165 mph before quitting, though the 997S would go faster. Also get your man to drive the Alpine circuit as fast as he can, not just demonstrating technique, important though that is.

You will enjoy.

By the way, my Cayman S is faster round the Alpine than my 997S... ask Richard Atwood.. & he has driven a few Porsches..

 

[okellyt]

ORIGINAL: YvesD

Simple,

As much time on the Alpine circuit as possible !

Awesome.

remember - on the circuit rather than over the circuit - Yes there is a jump if you go fast enough - or should I say drop...........

Alpine was awsome - As I am a slow coach spent more time trying to get the line right than going too fast, final attempt picked up waht seemed to be some speed - then the instructor swapped witrh me and said he'd demostrate the circuit when you really go for it............. Still recoving[][][]

All I can say is that they have definateloy fixed the 911 tail swapping thing, judging by how much time e spent sideways on a narrow circuit at unfeasable speeds..........

 

[Adam2S]

Ok just got back from Millbrook and have had a fantastic day!

Drove a C2S Manual for the whole time and managed to avoid a halfway swap to a C2 Tip (the Tip just doesn't interest me at all) as the other driver was buying a Tip and was happy to stay in it also.

Went on the Alpine Circuit, the Mile Straight (managed 155 on the first run and then did emergency stops from 30, 60, 100 and 135!!), the bowl (managed 152 before I had to slow down due to limit without helmet), the steering pad and then another go on the Alpine circuit, and then finally the bit (name forgotten) where the tutor takes you round the track at full tilt to show you want the car is capable of.

All in all a very enjoyable day, which was finished off with a fantastic test drive of the orange GT3RS that they had back at Flitwick. I had to badger for this bit as it wasn't standard, but it was too good an opportunity to miss up. I have to say while the GT3RS looks, drives and sounds stunning it is most definitely way too compromised for me as a daily driver - lots of fun however!

I am still grinning, even after the 3hr journey home back to Yorkshire.
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[YvesD]

Fantastic isnt it.

The thing I found most staggering was the cars composure under maximum braking, still being able to steer 'normally' with the ABS chattering away. Awesome.

Rob/Gary, any possibility of a Register day at Millbrook sometime ?

Yves

 

[Adam2S]

Absolutely.. I was staggered at not just how quickly the car stopped from 135, but how extremely stable it was. This is far far faster than I will ever drive it in real life and its was very reassuring to see just how safe and secure the car is should an emergency ever arise at such speeds.

 

[YvesD]

The problem as always of course is the plonker behind you who has neither the brainpower or machinery to miss us as we stop on a sixpence.

Always a cloud to the silver lining !

 

[okellyt]

ORIGINAL: Adam2S

Absolutely.. I was staggered at not just how quickly the car stopped from 135, but how extremely stable it was. This is far far faster than I will ever drive it in real life and its was very reassuring to see just how safe and secure the car is should an emergency ever arise at such speeds.

Ah but were you brave enough to do the emergency stop from 100+ with both hands by your side - not on the steering wheel. While your on the stright it works! B**dy scary mind you.........

 

[garyw]

ORIGINAL: YvesD
Rob/Gary, any possibility of a Register day at Millbrook sometime ?

Yves

I have been looking into this for the past few years, since I first did my day at Millbrook. So far the costs are what I feel too much for the majority (you can book a extra day with Porsche cars for £500).
Hopefully with the plans going ahead at Silverstone, as a club we may have better access to similar kinds of facilities.
But it will be a sad day for those who don't get to go to Millbrook.

I'm booked in for an excited return in June, the Alpine section is certainly the bit you can learn the most from, however I found it to be very intense and hard work, the bowl and mile straight gave the grey cells a few moments of simple pleasure [] and time to relax before returning to the Alpine section.
My last trip was in a cabriolet, so we had to be careful on the rise/dip as it can set of the rollover protection [].
No such worries this time round []

I will however ask the questions again,

garyw

garyw

 

[Jamie Garside]

I'm glad i'm not the only one to find the Alpine quite hard but great in the passenger seat and it is easy to chicken out on the bowl. I'm going to post up my experience under seperate thread.

 

[okellyt]

Jamie

I am interested to fnd my expreiences similar to yours, albiet I was more of a chicken on the bowl.

I think it was around a brian re-set. The sheer unbroken acceleration caught me out to begin with. I wish we's hsd a whole day, then I think I'd got to grips with it.

I've had boxsters which are kinda quick to about 85 -90 then thats pretty much it, after that they accelerate but more like a fast saloon compared to the 911.

Before the Boxster contingent string me up, I am comparing to the 911 not actual saloons, I know they are fast I had 2 for 5 years and loved every minute.[8|]

The real difference seems to be that the 911 is it pulls like a steam strain at any gear and at any speed and just keeps going. Initally intimidating by the end of the day intoxicating.

The other surpirse is how stable they are, you can really throw them around even with PSM off (not that I would mind you).

I started on fast cars with the old boxy BMW E36 325i, which was rather brutal and unforgiving if you got your cornering wrong, as a couple of backwards expereinces taught me.

I had subconciously assumed the 911 would be more like the old BM's that the Boxster - Wrong!

The final surprise was the breaks, I thought I'd probably never come across a better set of stoppers than my old 987S, how wrong could I be. I don't know the relativc timings but from high speed the C2S breaks were unbeliveably strong.

 

[garyw]

ORIGINAL: okellyt


The final surprise was the breaks, I thought I'd probably never come across a better set of stoppers than my old 987S, how wrong could I be. I don't know the relativc timings but from high speed the C2S breaks were unbeliveably strong.

The brakes on the 911 (as the instructor reminded me) are part of the benefits of having the engine at the rear.
No heavy mass over the front wheels causing the nose to dive even further under braking... great isn't it []

garyw

 

[okellyt]

ORIGINAL: garyw

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The brakes on the 911 (as the instructor reminded me) are part of the benefits of having the engine at the rear.
No heavy mass over the front wheels causing the nose to dive even further under braking... great isn't it []

garyw

Yep [][][]

Shame the idiots on the mortorway dont think about that when they attache themselves to the rear bumper at 70mph

 

[garyw]

ORIGINAL: okellyt
Shame the idiots on the mortorway dont think about that when they attache themselves to the rear bumper at 70mph

I forgot, your still running it in [] []

garyw

 

[okellyt]

ORIGINAL: garyw

ORIGINAL: okellyt
Shame the idiots on the mortorway dont think about that when they attache themselves to the rear bumper at 70mph

I forgot, your still running it in [] []

garyw

Gary

Not any more - just had full revs unadulterated blasts over the weekend having taken onboard some advice from my instructor on the Milbrooke day (now on 2300+ miles) captain slow no longer

Unfortunately in heavy motorway traffic one can be slowed up to 50 -70, At which point the muppets finally catch up and re attach themselves to your bumper as though it proves something

 

[YvesD]

okt,

How can this be ? [8|]

My powerkit is 5 months old and still only done 750 odd miles ( 6000 rpm max ), in fact in the 5 minutes you have had your car you have already done half my 19 month mileage total !

Note to self. Must get out more. [&:]

Yves

 

[garyw]

ORIGINAL: YvesD
My powerkit is 5 months old and still only done 750 odd miles ( 6000 rpm max ), in fact in the 5 minutes you have had your car you have already done half my 19 month mileage total !

Note to self. Must get out more. [&:]

True []

YvesD, I did your mileage in three days by collecting the car from Germany !!
Tom keenly came out and gave the X51 a good run on the spring drive... [] with his new car [8D]

Tom, so you finally got to hear the motor on tune? .. excellent []

garyw

 

[okellyt]

ORIGINAL: garyw

ORIGINAL: YvesD
My powerkit is 5 months old and still only done 750 odd miles ( 6000 rpm max ), in fact in the 5 minutes you have had your car you have already done half my 19 month mileage total !

Note to self. Must get out more. [&:]

True []

YvesD, I did your mileage in three days by collecting the car from Germany !!
Tom keenly came out and gave the X51 a good run on the spring drive... [] with his new car [8D]

Tom, so you finally got to hear the motor on tune? .. excellent []

garyw

Yves - take the beastie out for a long run - eg Scotland for a long weekend with the missus. You get the beast run in and then get to cane it all under the guise of taking she who must be obeyed away for a nice weekend and a run out

2nd gear 6000 - 7200rpm - the noise, the rampant acceleration (for a non turbo before Gary gest upset) quite something

Gary - long weekend trip to the rellies did it - spent half the weekend exploring some well known raods asround cheshire and seeing how many cattle/sheep/pheasants I can scare with the sports exhaust