S2 Clutch cost

[Copperman05]

I've been looking around getting prices for my 944 S2 clutch, an indie near me, (not Porschembri I might add) have quoted £850 +vat for the OEM clutch only, plus 7 hours labour[:-]. Told me I could get an aftermarket clutch for around £500 +vat but that he didnt really like fitting them...

Porscheshop is listing the OEM part at £395.

A little steep? A blatant rip off?

Edd

 

[944 man]

"Avoid Porsceshop" is seldom bad advice...

 

[zcacogp]

Edd,

Hang about - weren't you asking about replacement 'boxes for your S2 last week? If so, you'll be paying for a chunk of the labour to change a clutch anyway.

Or were you doing the clutch anyway?

Either way, if you are looking at having a clutch changed, buy the new part from the guy who will do the work. If there are problems, you don't want to be in the situation where the guy who fitted it is blaming the part and the guy who supplied the part is blaming the guy who fitted it. Yes, it will cost a few quid more this way, but will cause a WHOLE LOAD less hassle.

(Or do it DIY. But that's a different question.)


Oli.

 

[si30boxsters]

out of interest........why avoid porscheshop?

 

[Copperman05]

ORIGINAL: zcacogp

Edd,

Hang about - weren't you asking about replacement 'boxes for your S2 last week? If so, you'll be paying for a chunk of the labour to change a clutch anyway.

Or were you doing the clutch anyway?

Oli.

Sorry for confusion, the clutch and box will be done at the same time...(By somebody else) I was just posting this price as I thought it seemed a little steep for just the cost of the clutch replacement, would have worked out at around £1460, I'm suspicous as the same indie has apparently changed my gearbox oil recently, but the area around the drainage plug on the box is as dry as a very dry thing and hasnt seen a drop of oil in a good few months, shame cos that cost me £70 odd quid too.

Now I dont mind spending money on my 944 to keep it on the road and in good shape, but if I'm spending money and someone is pretending to do the work or excessively overcharging me then its really going to p*** me off.[]

Edd

 

[carreraboy]

If it's the same as a 944 Lux 2.7 .... I can get one £400.00 all inclusive of taxes and it's non-rubber.

 

[Copperman05]

ORIGINAL: carreraboy

If it's the same as a 944 Lux 2.7  .... I can get one £400.00 all inclusive of taxes and it's non-rubber.

Thanks, but I believe the S2 clutch is different...

 

[zcacogp]

'Tis different.

And Lux clutches are readily available off-the-shelf for £420 or so, inc. VAT ... a bit of haggling could probably chip this away to below £400.

(Having said that, where are you getting them from at that price Des?)


Oli.

 

[AntB]

ORIGINAL: carreraboy

If it's the same as a 944 Lux 2.7  .... I can get one £400.00 all inclusive of taxes and it's non-rubber.

Is that from Porsche themselves??

ORIGINAL: zcacogp

'Tis different.

And Lux clutches are readily available off-the-shelf for £420 or so, inc. VAT ... a bit of haggling could probably chip this away to below £400.

(Having said that, where are you getting them from at that price Des?)


Oli.

That from Porsche Oli - I take it the Porsche ones are the revised ones with no rubber??

Cheers

 

[carreraboy]

I called around a bit ................. seems to be cheapest yet ............. pm me []

 

[JamesO]

Not sure if it applies to garages but most industries will have mark up on parts partially to offset any losses if the part fails while under warrenty and cover some of the labour costs and to make some money, I would imagine Porsche would not cover the labour cost if the clutch fails shortly after fitting. That may well explain the high parts price from your indy, mind you I might be completely wrong

 

[Copperman05]

Surely a Sachs OEM clutch kit is a Sachs OEM clutch kit isnt it? Either its OEM or its not? I cant see how a Sachs kit from porscheshop (or anyone else for that matter) can be any different froma Sachs OEM kit from porsche, or do Porsche have a special dust they sprinkle over it to make it more special, and expensive?

Call me cynical but I'm more inclined to think the indie was trying to get some more money out of me by playing the Porsche is expensive yes but I dont trust the aftermarket kits, when in reality its the same kit and a ploy to get me to spend more money, shame I cant post his name or all to see and avoid but I certainly wont be using him again.[&:]

Edd

 

[tref]

If it is an independant purchasing it, the clutch may be the same, but the warrenty he gets with it, or his own insurance cover, maybe different according to where it is purchased... i.e., he may regain some of his lost labour from his own insurance policy if he has to do the job twice having purchased genuine parts from Porsche...

Playing Devil's advocate - I haven't really a clue.

 

[pauljmcnulty]

I'm suspicous as the same indie has apparently changed my gearbox oil recently, but the area around the drainage plug on the box is as dry as a very dry thing and hasnt seen a drop of oil in a good few months, shame cos that cost me £70 odd quid too.

That's a lot for an oil change unless it was Swepco. [8|]

 

[Copperman05]

ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty

I'm suspicous as the same indie has apparently changed my gearbox oil recently, but the area around the drainage plug on the box is as dry as a very dry thing and hasnt seen a drop of oil in a good few months, shame cos that cost me £70 odd quid too.

That's a lot for an oil change unless it was Swepco. [8|]

Agreed, was £66 +vat. But I wouldn't mind so much if he'd actually done the oil change...I'll get patrick to take a look at the oil in my box and if it doesnt look brand new I'll be asking for my money back.

Edd

 

[carreraboy]

New Indie on the block SE London or NW Kent whichever way you look at it .....
RAS nice new premises and at the moment very keen on NEW business. Barry certainly knows his 944 as well as Kremer 935 ....020 8308 0400 DA14 5AH ......... speak Barry or Adam ....

 

[James_G]

ORIGINAL: Copperman05

ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty

I'm suspicous as the same indie has apparently changed my gearbox oil recently, but the area around the drainage plug on the box is as dry as a very dry thing and hasnt seen a drop of oil in a good few months, shame cos that cost me £70 odd quid too.

That's a lot for an oil change unless it was Swepco. [8|]

Agreed, was £66 +vat. But I wouldn't mind so much if he'd actually done the oil change...I'll get patrick to take a look at the oil in my box and if it doesnt look brand new I'll be asking for my money back.

Edd

It's possible that your drain plug was seized. Mine was and I asked for it to be "extracted", but even then my bill was only £60 + VAT. However you could see that they might have spent 30 mins trying to shift it and then using one of those oil pumps to extract the old oil out of the filler plug. Filling up to the recommended level shouldn't result in oil flowing out, as it's supposed to be a few cm below the hole, but that all sounds a bit dubious to me.

Why don't you visit him in person and put him on the spot?

 

[zcacogp]

ORIGINAL: AntB
That from Porsche Oli - I take it the Porsche ones are the revised ones with no rubber??

I think all the replacement ones now are sprung, no-rubber ones. There may be some old stock kicking around somewhere, so it's worth asking, but I'd be surprised if a replacement clutch wasn't sprung.

I bought from Max Schenker at Frazerpart (http://www.frazerpart.com/). I have used him for parts before and he is good, and is keen to grow his business by word-of-mouth recommendations, so I'm happy to give him a plug on here. Prices seem keen and service is genuinely excellent.

FWIW, I called up OPC Exeter when I did mine, and the parts alone would have been north of £1000 - with a discount!


Oli.

 

[jasonp]

hiya ed, have you tried top gear in forest rd e17, the guys there andy and jamie both own porsches and have been very helpful in getting my s2 up to scratch, shes going in again at the end of the month for some silly niggles also they are not extorianate with there pricing. regards jason p ps if a blatent rip-off happens at a specialists are we not allowed to name and shame?.....

 

[Copperman05]

ORIGINAL: jasonp

ps if a blatent rip-off happens at a specialists are we not allowed to name and shame?.....

My understanding is that it is not permitted due to possible legal issues, etc. Which I do understand, however not being able to warn/inform members of wrongdoing or unfair practice could be equally damaging, but perhaps rather more for the member than the club, hence the current situation.

I'm sure one of the mods will be able to clarify this issue...

As a side point I do think that most indie's appear honest and trustworthy, otherwise they wouldnt get our repeat custom. My situation started after moving to a new city (London) where I had to start from scratch, not knowing who was who. At the end of the day you can only trust your gut instinct when attempting to pick a specialist you can trust. There definately a few out there, its just finding them...

Edd