S2 OR TURBO?

[chrisr]

ORIGINAL: John Sims

ORIGINAL: chrisr

Personally Ive found running the S2 cheap.......

You're only saying that 'cos you're too far away for me to get at you easily. Don't worry though, I'll have my day (If I remember - I've got the long term memory of a gold fish) []

John, I did calculate that a journey from Hockley to Preston for a tongue in the cheek comment was unlikely to result in a smacking , however the next 944 ' gathering ' I attend , I will be in full disguise, tin hat and driving a VW Passat []

 

[Mark_Bennett]

I will be in full disguise, tin hat and driving a VW Passat

He'll be easy to spot then John []

 

[John Sims]

To be honest Chris is more than safe as I can't remember names any way.

 

[chrisr]

ORIGINAL: Mark Bennett

I will be in full disguise, tin hat and driving a VW Passat

He'll be easy to spot then John []

Fair point Mark []

 

[drummerboytom]

I've previously had two Turbos (both 220's ) either side of an early N/A ( not S2 ) and may well return to the fold soon , but my advice would depend on how you intend using the car :
Daily driver around town ? go for the S2
Weekend fun-car ? go Turbo everytime

 

[chrisdenton]

ORIGINAL: chrisr

ORIGINAL: Mark Bennett

I will be in full disguise, tin hat and driving a VW Passat

He'll be easy to spot then John []

Fair point Mark []

ORIGINAL: Diver944

If I had found a 2.7 head I would have been easily identifiable skipping round the field with it strapped to my head in glee []

Not as easy as Paul.... He'll have an engine on his head

 

[Fen]

You've been around long enough to have seen the umpty-seven other threads on this haven't you? Turbo if you have intentions of modifying, S2 otherwise.

 

[jez_anderson]

I did try a search under "Turbo or S2" before I posted and got nowt! Did realise I couldn't ask the same as someone else

 

[944turboS]

Try http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=166704

 

[jez_anderson]

Thanks. I'll open my eyes next time. The worst thing is I even remember reading it. My only excuse was that it was on a dialup connection and I got bored waiting for the pages to load.

 

[Fen]

Sorry, I didn't mean to sound off-putting and you can ask whatever you want. i know I personally have typed lengthy replies to just this question in the past, probably about 4 times I can think of. In essence my initial response is what the discussion boils down to, though. Search only returns 300 hits (and that can be many from the same thread) and a quick look just now returned a poor response, granted. I did find the following which may be of interest: http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=91020&mpage=1&key=turbo%2Cbuying%2Cadvice&#91071http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=25319&mpage=1&key=turbo%2Cbuying%2Cadvice&#25319

 

[jez_anderson]

Thanks Fen. I saw an S2 yesterday that had a new chain which stripped some sprokets from the cam. The head had needing fixing as a result. Doen by a specialist

What I dont know is - is that a problem worth fixing or is the resultant damage so bad its not worth?

Any advice? Do I walk away now or go back for another look.

 

[Fen]

Has it been repaired? It's certainly repairable, but in worst case scenario it will need/have needed valves, cams, chain, tensioners etc. plus the associated time and materials required to pull the head. Last thing to consider is if all the bits were accounted for or if there may be teeth still in the engine somewhere. They should find their way into the sump and it's bad enough having them in there (should really be dropped and cleaned out), but it could be worse if they are blocking an oil gallery etc. The right way to do it is to count the broken teeth and find all of them, but that can be expensive and may not have been done. All that said I haven't heard of any S2s lunching their engines because of debris, but Darren's had no oil pressure after it destroyed the top end because of shrapnel in the oil pressure relief valve.

 

[Guest]

ORIGINAL: jez_anderson
Thanks Fen. I saw an S2 yesterday that had a new chain which stripped some sprokets from the cam. The head had needing fixing as a result. Doen by a specialist

Do you mean that a new chain was fitted, and the new chain immediately stripped the sprockets? Or that it needed a new chain because the old one had stripped the teeth from the sprockets? Was a specialist involved in the chain change (if that happened before the failure)? I'm about to get my chain replaced, and I'm now concerned that this is more dangerous than just keeping the old one!

Thanks,

Tom

 

[mik_ok]

I read Jez'a comment as the latter ~ that a new chain and tensioner had caused the sprocket teeth to give way.

Have a look at THIS LINK

Specifically talking to 968, but (varioram aside) the setup is the same. Teeth on the cam sprockets need to be assesed for "serviceability" ~ if they are badly worn then a new chain may just accelerate the inevitable failure

 

[Fen]

Yeah, mik is right (except it's VarioCam [8|]) if the chain is replaced when the teeth are worn then they can be broken. It's the same principal as a motorcycle chain and I'm sure if any of you are bikers you know that you don't replace just the chain when it wears out, you replace the sprockets as well.

 

[jez_anderson]

Yes that swaht I was told happened. New chain broke old sprokets.

Fen - what should I look under to see Darrens oil pressure experience thread?

 

[eastendr]

Look HERE at the bottom of the page.

HTH

Rick