Service charges are now stupid.

[Twinfan]

Ralph says the GT cars are 20k though, as per his earlier post:

"I have been having issues with "My Porsche" app and one of the apparent errors was counting down mileage to next service based on 20k mile service intervals. It turns out that the app is correct (i.e. 20k miles) and the Porsche website and documentation that show 12k miles are wrong.

All been confirmed by Porsche Germany"

Let us know what your OPC say

 

[MrDemon]

12k on the cup engine cars I thought like the 991.2 GT3, 992 GT3, 4RS SRS, speedster etc.

IF the UK Porsche website is wrong what hope do with have dealing with 19 year old girls at OPC's ?
Again nothing in the 4RS drivers manual. regarding servicing.

I am paying at 4k miles to get the red top stuff swapped into my 4RS anyway. The green car I might just reset the computer and wait till the cars 2 years old and cancle my 10k oil change I won't have that car on it's 3 year birthday anyway.
I am done with modern Porsche after 2025 and done with track days and OPC's after next year.

I did ask for a 992.2 touring but still the games, this is what I was told when trying to order one. OPC: "All I can tell you is any GT car is build in very small numbers and clients have to apply to purchase one where lots of factors are taken into consideration by our senior management team."
So I will just switch brands in 2026. Done with the OPC bullshit and 5x costs. I regret buying the 4RS it's a very flawed car wish I had got an F8 or the 992 GT3, would have been cheaper to own over 2 years and more usable.
Now I need to buy some shocks to drive the thing in 2025 as the cars crap on it's oem rates. To a point it's in storage under cover till it gets some SSR shocks fitted.
I wonder how long it will take Tyrone to swap out the oem shit

4RS is a dog of car to drive imo out the box. I did take this up with Germany, I was offered a free geo, that's it. At least no PADM to go wrong (hence binning off the 4.0 GTS after its 3 years old) !!

 

[Twinfan]

Yep, 12k on the Cup engine sounds right.

Interesting to hear you say you regret buying the 4RS, I got that impression from your posts but it's a shame to hear it. Having been out in a few of each I was always of the opinion that the 992 GT3 would have been my choice if I was buying but they're too expensive for me, and a similar price to GT4RS which then need shocks adding to them. Adding Manthey shocks (before the price rise) to my GT4 was my best option as I prefer the Cayman platform, plus I get to keep my manual gearbox.

I think T is planning on shocks and rear toe links I think, there's no way he's staying OEM!

 

[MrDemon]

seems a thing I said it's also macans lol the system is screwed up.

Macan S Oil change between services - Page 1 - Front Engined Porsches - PistonHeads UK

My reason for NOT buying the 922 GT3 over the 4RS was, a new one will come out and has done (maybe it's worse then the outgoing model now though) . bigger tyres, less nice on the road with double wishbones and those front wide tyres, a lot more costs if you do track it, but NO mods or shocks needed on the 992 GT3, the car just works. but they were £180k plus when I got my 4RS at £155k with WP and Mags under list, it really isa great looking and high spec car.
And vs the F8 I thought the F8 would cost me £30k ish to own for a year, but in hindsite the 4RS will be more now.

Reasons for the 4rS , it's one of one, no old or new ones planed, it's small, this is a BIG reason on UK B roads. tyres are cheaper by a long way. Long term value will hold up imo as one of one.

I do think the 4RS will make a mega car with a set of shocks, but that's 8.6k plus fitting again on top of the £155k spend, really did not want to mod it.
Chris W bought the right car imo. the 991.2 RS iconic car and firm values and no OPF's on the early ones , I should have kept my 991.2 GT3. doh.

SSR is now the only real option on the 4RS but it is a top outfit, same 3 way shocks as yours as it happens but now with FAL and much softer rates then OEM 4RS shocks or MR 4RS shocks.

Maybe when those are fitted I will love the car.

 

[Twinfan]

Good luck, hope it works out for yourself and T.

I'm sticking with my '4 now it's all sorted and handling brilliantly, plus I've got an excuse as to why I'm not fast enough on track as it's not an RS

 

[MrDemon]

718 GT4 is the perfect track car imo with those shocks, I would remap it though if I had one 440+ BHP for £1k seems too nice to not do and would close the 4RS gap quite a lot as it unlocks the torque cap put on it by Porsche.
I have tracked mine vs 718 GT4's they are not much slower down the straights really and if it's a bumpy straight you are faster in a non RS lol.

T will have to relearn how to drive a faster car, it's not easy as just having a faster car ! you go 10/15mph down the big straights faster, but that means braking "earlier", and between bends you tend to have to brake more when the non RS GT4 you can carry speed better as much less braking to do over all.
It's really a hard car to drive very fast and under steer is a big issue on this platform with the extra power. WOT lifts the front causing under steer, when I tracked my 718 Spyder, or my 981 GT4 I had none of these issues after a nice geo.
It can be fun as it's a lot harder but also frustrating. Most people think faster car = much faster laps and you just gain that speed as it's a faster car, when in real life it's not that easy to pull it all together due to the much higher workload needed to get round a lap in a faster car.

I am sure we all all meet up in 2025 and have loads of fun on joint track days.

 

[Twinfan]

Quite likely I would have thought, bound to bump into you somewhere after all these years

 

[911hillclimber]

Almost depressing to read.
Just what are Porsche today?

I have an old 987.2, 2.9/2009, 1 option added (lights) rest basement spec. now in it's 7th year with me.
Currently at 85K and used a lot thank you.

Now serviced at Zuffenhaus independent, simple as chips. 6 people there with years of experience.
Call/email Paul the boss, or his son Chris.
Remind them of what they have done in the past few visits, and they tell you what is needed and how much the job will be, all based on the miles, the age and how I drive it.

You then book it in and you can wait if reasonable for the job to be done in comfort upstairs. You get at least 2 coffees.

Job done, you get a verbal report of advisories or 'sweet as a nut' comments and a proper stamp in the Service Book. A nice sight for the next owner.

You pay what you were quoted and see them again in 1 year's time.

KISS

 

[MrDemon]

Sadly I need a warranty on a 718 due to PADM issues.
the small print for renewal of warranty is now the last service needs to be an OPC service stamp. I don’t take my 997 to OPC’s.

 

[pse_SC]

I was running 4 porkers it's not now sustainable at these rates sorry to say, will have to get down to 2 some how in retirement.

Oh dear, there’s your problem... i don’t know why anyone should complain on here about maintenance costs with these cars when they’re not prepared to pay what they need to and/or cut their cloth to suit their pocket. We all have a choice in the end.

 

[Greenman986S]

I've just got rid of my 718. One of the reasons was that the price of servicing at an OPC has become unacceptable.

Personally I resent your implied assertion that people who question OPC service and maintenance costs as being cheeseparers.

Get off the fence and make your mind up

 

[pse_SC]

Personally I resent your implied assertion that people who question OPC service and maintenance costs as being cheeseparers.

No point in resenting my ‘implied assertion’ - they are. More money than sense, often.
As I said, we all have a choice in the end, you have apparently taken yours. Happy Christmas, fellow PCGB member