Should I press on with more modifications

[Suffolk944]

Ok - just for a bit of fun (as they say) thought I would stick up this poll...

As a fully paid up member of the booooost appreciation society I have frittered away various amounts of money over the years tweaking my car (and indeed the one before it) in a never ending quest for a bit more power and a bit more driveability. Having got myself a Vitesse MAF a while back I promised myself (and others !) that that would be that.

BUT I can't help but feel that my quest for boost will not be complete without getting myself a new turbo plus some associated gubbins strapped to the engine. Its not strictly neccesary of course but its an itch that will never be scratched unless I take the plunge. As I am of two minds at present I thought I would throw it open to the 944 massive to see what the consensus was []

 

[blease]

You need to add an option 'Just accept the inevitable and transplant a V8. Vrooooom is better than Boooooost!'

 

[Hilux]

Spend spend spend.........................................

......................................on lightening it and uprating the suspension and brakes. Losing unsprung weight makes an amazing difference.

What is power if you dont allow the car to fully appreciate it.

 

[GPF]

Hi Jon,

You wouldn't be thinking about it if you didn't NEED to do it! [] Just do it!

What Turbo do you have at the moment? You really do need to make the most of that Vitesse MAF - it's the law!

I have already gone down the modified turbo route - It's not stopped me upgrading it again just now though!!

May the boooooosssst be with you.

 

[Lowtimer]

There is no "should" or "should not" for this, it is in no way a moral issue. It's your money and your car and up to you to spend your hard-earned the way that makes you happy.

The only possible answer is therefore another question: "do you really want to do itm or do you really want not to?"
12 months from now will you be thinking "I'm really glad I did that", or "Why on earth did I do that?"

Only you can know.

 

[Suffolk944]

ORIGINAL: blease

You need to add an option  'Just accept the inevitable and transplant a V8. Vrooooom is better than Boooooost!'

I looked at this a while back for my previous car but my budget won't stretch to it at present and it seems a shame to hoik out a healthy engine..

 

[Suffolk944]

ORIGINAL: Hilux

Spend spend spend.........................................

......................................on lightening it and uprating the suspension and brakes. Losing unsprung weight makes an amazing difference.

What is power if you dont allow the car to fully appreciate it.

Suspension done already - lightening it is certainly another option have been pondering

 

[Suffolk944]

ORIGINAL: GPF



What Turbo do you have at the moment?

Just the standard 26/8..

 

[GPF]

ORIGINAL: Suffolk944

ORIGINAL: GPF



What Turbo do you have at the moment?

Just the standard 26/8..

I think you know the answer then!

Anything that you feel the need to precede with "just" can't be right......[]

Plus I will have some bits to get rid of soon! []

 

[Diver944]

Oh yes []

A larger, modern turbocharger will give you more low down grunt, less lag and much more top end boost compared to the antiquated K26 that has now done many thousands of miles on your car. Done properly it will make your car easier and smoother to drive while still delivering that turbo adrenelin rush

 

[jasonp]

hiya jon, please give up the changing gear addiction and just get an s2, with all that turbo lag YOU will end up with a left arm like popeye!![]

 

[DavidL]

ORIGINAL: GPF
Plus I will have some bits to get rid of soon! []

What sort of bits Graham?

 

[DavidL]

I shall watch this with interest. I'm a few steps behind you but have very similar thoughts.
Hoping there is an email from JM at home.

But I had to go to Bath early on Sunday morning and really had very few opportunities to wind it up a bit even with my stock performance - just too many cars. So it made me wonder if there was any point trying to go faster.
Is there a limit to usuable performance against price in this level of traffic. Does it matter?

 

[J.C944TurboMan]

Is it just me or do you find that the faster you go , the faster you want to go ! I drove a newish Lamborgini Spyder apparently 600BHP and I floored the accelerater pedal ! It took off really smothly , with a deep V10 lovely grunt . I did not get the same Raw feel that I get from my 944 T , like a button neck snapping acceleration ! I say fit the bigger Turbo and some NOS ! And hope the engine does not blow up like my one nearly did ! Was great while it lasted all 400miles of to much Boost .
Best of luck with your quest and as long as you are happy that's what counts best regards J.C P.S Engine pictured is not from my 944T

 

[GPF]

ORIGINAL: DavidL

ORIGINAL: GPF
Plus I will have some bits to get rid of soon! []

What sort of bits Graham?

I don't want to hijack Jon's thread, so I'll start a new one in a week or so with details, but basically various chipsets, SFR Garrett hybrid turbo (already have some PM's on that), 2.75" inlet adapter & J-boot, custom AFM + FPR + Chips package, MBC's, K&N panel.....

Maybe my #55 injectors (but hopefully not!)......[8|]

 

[Hilux]

I did not get the same Raw feel that I get from my 944 T

You wont as the torque curve isnt the same. Seamless pushing towards the horizon isnt a 944T`s forte, instead its neck snapping launching in each gear. A modern supercar simply goes on and on without apparent effort so dulls the sensation somewhat (my opinion only)

I would imagine Paul (Diver944) might agree when I say with a better managed engine and bigger turbo that spools up quicker the torque starts lower down and stays there []

 

[ukmastiff]

I've gone for the as long as it doesnt bankrupt you option. I'm on my 6th midlife crisis at the mo, so I don't see why you shouldn't be allowed a few []

 

[sawood12]

ORIGINAL: Suffolk944

ORIGINAL: Hilux

Spend spend spend.........................................

......................................on lightening it and uprating the suspension and brakes. Losing unsprung weight makes an amazing difference.

What is power if you dont allow the car to fully appreciate it.

Suspension done already - lightening it is certainly another option have been pondering

Nahh, I wouldn't bother with lightening unless you are looking for a more dedicated track car - too many compromises, you want your cake and eat it. Alot of people go to alot of effort and expense trying to take weight out of these cars and end up with a more uncomfortable car which is less than 10% lighter than where they started. A 944T is roughly the same weight as a GT3 which is no slouch in anyones book so just work your way upto GT3 power - or more and you'll have one-hell of a fantastic car.

I would go for more mods but tasteful mods - I don't like the high-boost, power at high RPM route. You should aim for more low to mid range grunt - i.e. sensible sized turbo, sensible boost levels. With the Vitesse kit 350+bhp in the part of the rev range that it is useful should be acheivable. If you want anymore than that, go 3.2ltr or v8.

 

[333pg333]

I would suggest a more modern turbo and tune to run at a higher boost level should cure your current 'pangs' Jon. In all reality something like a VR kit is a very good option even though the initial expense seems quite high. Just out of the box they do work very well. Sure, you can go further but you enter into a more complicated field. As for matching a GT3, well it's possible but you have to do more than just increasing power of course. On paper it's pretty easy to match or beat their power to weight figures, but as we know that is only half the story. My car which is lighter, with a bigger turbo (GT3076), cam, large exhaust, large fmic, 10" rubber all round, KW comp suspension, bigger brakes, running on E85 is now up with the fastest GT3s in our club on the track. That's a fair bit of modifying to get to their level. You can have some fun trying though.

 

[Diver944]

ORIGINAL: 333pg333

My car ............. is now up with the fastest GT3s in our club on the track. That's a fair bit of modifying to get to their level.

Maybe the Aussie GT3's are quicker than our UK versions, we have no trouble keeping up just with sticky tyres and no mods [] <troll alert>