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So very tempting...

Yes, but its not in reality is it? How is it a better drivers car than a smaller, lighter, nimbler sportscar? How can an M5 be a better drivers car for a cross country B-road blast than something like a decent 911, well sorted 944, MX5 or even a decent modern hot hatch?

Motoring journalists usually talk hogwash - if you listened to JC then no-one would ever buy a Porsche, and if you listened to Tiff then you'd only ever buy a BMW or a Maclaren F1 or some car that is good at drifting. They are the least best placed to make recommendations about what a good car is for real people in the real world. We don't have the benefit of being able to hammer the car without having to fit the bill for a new set of tyres, clutches, diffs or whatever else breaks prematurely from the sort of treatment they give it. Also they don't have to live with the ongoing running cost. So in the real world for a car you would own and pay for it is not so much the ultimate driving machine.

It would be a great car no doubt, but not for a daily runner, unless you have very deep pockets - so you are back in the territory of having a crummy, cheap daily run-around.

What's wrong with the 944 as the daily runaround? Plenty robust enough to take the duty, cheap to run, the cabin is a very pleasant place to be in a traffic jam, and if you fancy a blast on the way home you've got a great piece of kit. Perfect.

 
Scott,
My pasrticular BMW is just used for long distance cruising, certainly not for chucking about, i have the 944;s for that, the BM is just a nice place to be for crunching miles.
 
Dougie,
my car is an early 99 before the diesels, i love the shape of my model, a matey had a later 530d chipped, it went really well, another matey has a MK1 GT3 and a 335d which produces more torque out of the box than a 997 turbo, that thing remapped will be mad !
 

ORIGINAL: Frenchy

Scott,
My pasrticular BMW is just used for long distance cruising, certainly not for chucking about, i have the 944;s for that, the BM is just a nice place to be for crunching miles.

I agree, so how can it be a 'drivers car'? A Ford Focus will cruise down the motorway as well as any car. If you're looking for a 944 replacement/alternative then a big, heavy cruiser, even a very excellent big heavy cruiser, is not really a like for like replacement.

If we're talking about good economic mile munchers what about a much newer Mondeo for the same money? I guess for those bothered about brands and street cred will be pulling their noses up right now, but a Mondy for that price is just as good a car in every respect, better looking (BMW's are hardly good looking) and for the same price will be a few years and tens of K miles younger, better specc'd, rarer and cheaper to run (releases more cash to lavish on the 944), and wont attract the negative reactions on the road that BMW's drivers get (in alot of cases quite deservedly so in my experience).
 
I had a B10 V8 Alpina, twas a 97 on an R. Went to the middle of Italy in it, 2,900 in about 12 days. All very comfy, returned 30.2 mpg average on the trip and went off the 155mph clock on the Autobahn. An excellent car all round. Would leave a turbo quite easily between about 60 and 100 mile an hour when you planted it. Was bog stock and dynoed at 328 BHP at the back wheels, not bad after 90K. Was a very understated car and people didn't generally know what it was. One of those cars I wish I had never sold.
Alasdair

 
My rule in life (or one of them) is...................

Drive what you like......................life`s too bl**dy short

If you want a big beemer then buy it and drive it for a year then move on but you can get cheaper ones than that one but having said that its had the Vanos sorted.
 

ORIGINAL: sawood12
Motoring journalists usually talk hogwash - if you listened to JC then no-one would ever buy a Porsche, and if you listened to Tiff then you'd only ever buy a BMW or a Maclaren F1 or some car that is good at drifting. They are the least best placed to make recommendations about what a good car is for real people in the real world.


True but Clarky and Needles are both keen on the 944T [:D], check on youtube if you haven't seen the clips.
 
Didn't the M5 have worm gear steering rather than rack and pinion? ISTR reading all the 5's above the 528 had this and it effects the steering in a very negative way.

If anyone wanted a big V8 then why not a monaro? After all they are GM so should be cheap enough to get parts for, the engines have a reputation for being not only bullet proof by surprisingly economical (engine management cuts to 4 cylinders or something). They are also relatively new so one should be able to find a low miles minter for less money than an older and probably ragged M5/M3.

Personally I wouldn't have any on that list though, large heavy and sporty do not sit together for me.
 
Clarkson loves front-engined Porsches, especially the 944T.

"Speak this quietly, but I was the only person in the world who wanted a 924. I knew that it had an engine from a Volkswagen van and that it took six years to get from zero to 60mph and that it cost a million pounds and you were only paying for the badge. But it had pinstripe velour seats, and I liked that.
"And then they fitted flared wheel arches and a new four-cylinder 2.5-litre engine to create the 944. I wanted one of those so much I ached. In fact, if I were to draw up a list of the 10 best cars I've ever driven, the 944 turbo would certainly be included. You can buy them these days for five grand.
"By rights, I should hate the 928. It was the first press test car I ever crashed. And I used one to go and see my dad the day before he died. I also disliked the dreadful ride quality in later models. And yet, even today, when one grumbles by, my head does the full Linda Blair. It is, I think, one of the best-looking cars ever made."
(from http://www.topgear.com/content/features/stories/2008/08/stories/01/2.html )

 

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