Squeaky Windscreen 0 - Pickled Piper 1

[Pickled Piper]

Much has been written about squeaky windscreen seals. Those of you that have experienced it will know that it is one of the most annoying squeaks that you could experience and completely negates any driving pleasure you can get from the car.

My 993 started doing this some months ago. I was advised that I already had the teflon strip fitted that was introduced by Porsche as a fix and that nothing more could be done about it. After searching on the internet I discovered that "Pedro's Ice Wax" was the recommended fix. I headed into Halfords to buy some but found my local branch didn't stock it, instead I came away with some Halfords own brand dry bicycle lubricant. I tested it on a piece of bodywork to confirm that it didn't have paint stripping properties. I then lifted the windscreen seal with my fingers and squirted large amounts of the lubricant into the gap. I continued this all round the windscreen paying special attention to the bottom edge and then wiped away all the excess. it's important to wipe away the excess lube while it is still liquid as it dries / hardens into a waxy consistancy. I can report that the squeaking is now totally eliminated. It's been two weeks and everything is stilll fine. In fact now tha the main squeak source has gone I've discovered a multitude of quieter sqeaks from the interior.

pp

 

[Mark Elder]

Wahooo!

PP - can you describe the "squeak" (if you can remember it, you lucky man). I was warned my car had windscreen "creak" before I even inspected it, but I'd describe it more like a high speed "tap", almost like something inside the dash tapping below the windscreen.

I now have a nice chip in the screen so I can get it insurance replaced, but I'm working up the mental stamina to take on the insurance company because I refuse to let "autoglass" near it.

I guess I could try your solution on the old screen/seals as nothing much to lose.

 

[scaramanga]

PP- Thanks for the note - i have the same issue (not major, but irritating me all the same!)

Will try out your fix this weekend - much appreciated.

Mark - i'm in the same boat as you - need to get my screen replaced but do NOT want autoglass messing the job up.... i'm trying to see if i can get them to supply the screen but not fit it (as i definitely want an expert who knows the 993 to do it)...

I spoke to Autoglass Slough, and in principal they said it should be ok... as long as the insurance company agrees to the arrangement.... as i'm paying for the fitting anyway, i can't see why the ins co should object.... but you never know... my car is booked in to have the work done in june... (small bit of corrosion near the windscreen seal needs to be fixed at the same time)..

 

[Pickled Piper]

ORIGINAL: marke2

I'd describe it more like a high speed "tap", almost like something inside the dash tapping below the windscreen.

That's exactly how I would describe it. It is more of a tap then a squeak. It sounds like it's coming from the top of the dash just below the windscreen and it is incessant.

pp

 

[clyde]

I've had my screen replaced under insurance and it wasn't an issue getting a Porsche approved body shop to do the work. It wasn't even that much more hassle than getting an approved glass fitter to install it. I had to get approval from the insurance (Norwich Union through Performance Marque) and much to my surprise they OK'd it without any question but I had to pay the bill then claim it back. I thought I might have to wait a while for payment from them but it was very prompt - within a week.
The screen does squeek a bit now though.

 

[Mark Elder]

ORIGINAL: clyde

an approved glass fitter

Clyde,
Who was the fitter?

Peter at MotoTune in Shotts has recommended I talk to a guy at Strathclyde Windscreens.

Which OPC's body shop did you do it through?

Thanks

 

[clyde]

Mark

I meant the insurance approved glass fitter.

I used Stewart Roden in Winchburgh, who I believe got a glass fitter that they always use to remove and replace it. There were a couple of reasons I wanted them to do it, firstly I had body warranty work done a wee while back and I didn't want to confuse the issue if it came back (the rusty window surround) and secondly I figured they would use OE glass, not some pattern part.

 

[Mark Elder]

Thanks, just trying to arm myself with loads of ideas before I call the insurance.

 

[SECTOR]

I have lost count of the windscreens I have had fitted in order to get it fitted correctly, as well as damaged paintwork etc. Its to long a story for me to tell, but what a nightmare.

The reason I am replying is to say that Tamworth windscreens will just supply windscreens, He even does a heated front screen for the 993. He also knows how to fit them correctly.

Regards
Stephen

 

[Incept]

Hi,

I know this is an old post, so you might not pick this up!

Firstly, thanks for the info. on the sqeeks. I've got them too and Pedros was also recommended. Can't find it anywhere so the alternative sounds great.

On the matter of the windscreen, I had mine replaced by Autoglass Hull last year and it was absolutely perfect - Full marks.

Maybe I was lucky, but I took it to the depot rather than them come out to it and all was fine.

Cheers,

Chris

 

[Incept]

Hi,

Just wanted to check I bought the right stuff!

The one I got from Halfords is: Bikehut Dry Wax Lubricant with Krytox.

It's lime green in colour.

Is this the one you used?

Also, I assume when you say 'lifted the seal with your finger' you don't mean you removed the seal?

If it is the right stuff, I can't wait to get rid of the squeeks, scratching, creaks: Call them what you will!

Cheers,

Chris

 

[Pickled Piper]

ORIGINAL: Incept

Hi,

Just wanted to check I bought the right stuff!

The one I got from Halfords is: Bikehut Dry Wax Lubricant with Krytox.

It's lime green in colour.

Is this the one you used?

Also, I assume when you say 'lifted the seal with your finger' you don't mean you removed the seal?

If it is the right stuff, I can't wait to get rid of the squeeks, scratching, creaks: Call them what you will!

Cheers,

Chris

Hi Chris,

I used the Bikehut dry lubricant with teflon. It's in a black bottle.

The stuff you have bought will probably do the job. Try it on an area first to check it doesn't damage the paint.

I can confirm that I didn't remove the seal., I just lifted the edge so I could squirt the lubricant in.

Good luck. Mine has been blissfully squeak free for several weeks now.

Taj

 

[Incept]

Hi,

I changed the bottle at the weekend: It sounds like it's quite runny though. You must have had the suff all over the place!

I assume you just applied the stuff to the outside edge of the rubber seal, or did you do the screen side too?

Thanks for all your help so far.

Cheers,

Chris

 

[Pickled Piper]

Hi Chris,

the stuff is very runny. I squirted it under the seal (not on the glass side) and wiped away the excess. When it dries it takes on a waxy consistancy.

So far so good.

Taj

 

[Incept]

Cheers,

I'll have a go this weekend and let you know how I get on.

Chris.

 

[Incept]

Hi,

Yep - It seems to have worked.

I couldn't seem to get the liquid into the screen suround direct from the bottle, so I squeezed some on to a small piece of sponge and fed that around the screen. This worked fine.

All in all a cheap and (so far) successful fix.

Cheers,

Chris

 

[i_sabberton]

Hi All,
my 993 recently had a new screen following a re-spray. The new screen squeaked persistently. OPC supplied genuine screen tape (less than £5, the cheapest product that they sell?) was applied and cured most of the noise. The remainder was silenced by applying PTFE loaded lubricant (after checking it was benign on paintwork) between the outer-seal and paint-work and the outer-seal and the screen. Application of the lubricant was by a soaked cloth, which was not too messy, and smears on the exposed screen and paintwork were easily wiped off. I'm happy to give advice on how to apply the tape - let me know.

Out of interest has anyone tried Silicone lubricant?

Silence is golden!!!

Ian.

 

[ach]

Ian, I will be interested how the tape was applied. Do you by chance remember the name of the tape (part number)?

Thanks in advance

Andrew

 

[i_sabberton]

Hi Andrew,

the description of the tape on the invoice is "P999.999.999.68 00 GB0054 LOOM TAPE", QTY 3 (3 meters). The word "loom" caused me some concern but the guys at the Porsche centre said that it was the right stuff. It cost £2.86 inc VAT. The tape is about 20mm wide, clear, self adhesive and it has a white peel-off backing paper.

On my car the screen noise was generated from between the felt-like backing of the screen-seal and the paintwork. This contact area was not as wide as the tape so the tape was down to about 13mm width before fitting it. It was then cut into four lengths, one for each of the two sides, the top and the bottom. Make sure that these are longer than required. Also check the paintwork is clean and that the back of the seal is dry before applying the tape.

The tape, with its paper backing attached, was then slid between the paintwork and the seal. This sounds easy but it involved lifting the seal at the corner of the screen and running something (a finger) along the seal lifting a section of it to get the tape in. The tape is held quite firmly between the seal and paint but it can be moved so that its edge aligns with the edge of the seal. Leave some excess tape extending out of the corners. When you are happy with the positioning of the tape peel its backing paper away. Start at the end (which should be extending out of the corner - hence the reason for the excess length) and double it back on its-self pulling it towards the centre of the seal. Again lift the seal at a point just in front of where the backing tape is being removed (at first I tried removing the backing without lifting the seal and it ripped). After all the backing is removed ensure that the tape is positioned correctly before cutting the excess from the corners and applying pressure to it to make it firm - I did this by putting a cloth over my finger and running it between the seal and the tape.

Good luck. Let us know how you get on, if the squeakiness goes away and if you find a better tool to lift the seal than a finger

Ian.

 

[Incept]

Hi,

Boy fitting that sounds a pain. I thought getting the dry wax in was difficult! Why not just use the wax: It seems to work a treat.

Of course it's more costly: It's over £3!

Cheers,

Chris