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don't worry its not black magic I'm interested in . I am curious about Porsche that have their engines in the wrong place ie rear and middle lol[:D]

All these numbers 996, 993,964,997 etc I have recently realised that none of these numbers mean anything to me at all. ![:(] I'm ashamed to say that despite 10 years of Porsche ownership 944 Lux, S2 etc I have never bothered to aquaint myself with all the other models.

Does anyone know of a link to a pictorial history of the marque ? I might then be able to muster up a mental image to fit the numbers in future.
 
The 911uk.com web site has a description of all of the 911 variations down the left hand side of the home page. I realise that doesn't help you a lot on the Boxster/Cayman front, but it gets you some of the way.

Regards

Dave
 
I'm not so sure the 911 has the engine in the wrong place. The way the 997 handles and sticks to the road and provides unparalelled launch control beating traction you could argue that everyone else has their engines in the wrong place!

I love my 944 and have become a convert over the time i've had her but I have ultimate respect for the 911.
 
ORIGINAL: sawood12

I'm not so sure the 911 has the engine in the wrong place. The way the 997 handles and sticks to the road and provides unparalelled launch control beating traction you could argue that everyone else has their engines in the wrong place!
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oh dear here we go lol [:D][;)] just kiddin [8|]

thanks for the links guys . Excellent sites . You can test me tomorrow [;)]



 
Its worth reading a few books on Porsche to learn about the different models- and also the history of the company and the amazing race cars- all interesting stuff!
 
Porsche According To Oli.

Early 911's - called 911's. Air cooled. Very very cool.
Next 911's - called 964's. Air cooled. Very very cool indeed.
Next 911's - called 993's. Air cooled. So cool you need thermal underwear to stand near them. More beautiful than Lucy Liu in her bathing costume. Achingly lovely to look at.
Next 911's. Called 996's. Water cooled. Porsche have totally lost the plot. Ghastly. Made by Toyota engineers, using BMW-produced parts (no, really) in huge numbers, thus totally diluting the marque. Suitable only for estate agents, failed bankers and other such pondlife.
Mext 911's. Called 997's. Fractionally better than 996's, but still less pleasant than a long wet weekend in Bognor spent sandpapering your knees. Best avoided.

924's/944's/968's. Not really Porsches - more particularly good Volkswagens (ignore the badge on the bonnet). Disappointing engines, but superb to drive due to brilliant layout.

928's. Lovely engineering. Suck Saudi Arabia dry each and every time you start them. Unsuitable for current UK fuel prices on this basis alone. (Ignore all that Brett "I love Nitrous" 928-enthusiast says - he's just an N2O addict.)

There, I think that's covered it.


Oli.
 
A bit of a controversial reply! [8|][;)] I would say the 24,44,68 series were very good Audi's rather than VW's. I have to admit, I'd like to own a 911 up to about 1989. Anything up to and including 3.2 Carrera but after that, not so keen.
 
Oli,
What about all the other ones:- 356, 914, 912 (Bogster, Snapper, Spice Jar - best avoided, completely useless - many driven by people who can't recognise another Porsche when it flashes then in the eyes)[:)]

Although you did cover the most important ones.

Cheers,
 
John, Controversy is my middle name! [;)]

ORIGINAL: Fred Hindle
What about all the other ones:- 356, 914, 912 (Bogster, Snapper, Spice Jar - best avoided, completely useless - many driven by people who can't recognise another Porsche when it flashes then in the eyes)[:)]
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Ah yes. Sorry - bad title. It should have been "A Brief Guide to Porsches By Oli".

Sorry.


Oli.
 
ORIGINAL: zcacogp

Porsche According To Oli.

Early 911's - called 911's. Air cooled. Very very cool.
Next 911's - called 964's. Air cooled. Very very cool indeed.
Next 911's - called 993's. Air cooled. So cool you need thermal underwear to stand near them. More beautiful than Lucy Liu in her bathing costume. Achingly lovely to look at.
Next 911's. Called 996's. Water cooled. Porsche have totally lost the plot. Ghastly. Made by Toyota engineers, using BMW-produced parts (no, really) in huge numbers, thus totally diluting the marque. Suitable only for estate agents, failed bankers and other such pondlife.
Mext 911's. Called 997's. Fractionally better than 996's, but still less pleasant than a long wet weekend in Bognor spent sandpapering your knees. Best avoided.

924's/944's/968's. Not really Porsches - more particularly good Volkswagens (ignore the badge on the bonnet). Disappointing engines, but superb to drive due to brilliant layout.

928's. Lovely engineering. Suck Saudi Arabia dry each and every time you start them. Unsuitable for current UK fuel prices on this basis alone. (Ignore all that Brett "I love Nitrous" 928-enthusiast says - he's just an N2O addict.)

There, I think that's covered it.


Oli.
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This man has talent. Sign him up quick.

JohnC
993turbo
 
Or 'A Comprehensive Incomplete Guide to the Porsche Marque' by Oli

(Just sussed out where you are from Oli - clever).

Cheers,
 
I'm not so sure the 911 has the engine in the wrong place. The way the 997 handles and sticks to the road and provides unparalelled launch control beating traction you could argue that everyone else has their engines in the wrong place!
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A bit like a 944 reversing with 5 gears [8D]
 
I'm not so sure the 911 has the engine in the wrong place. The way the 997 handles and sticks to the road and provides unparalelled launch control beating traction you could argue that everyone else has their engines in the wrong place!
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Hate to shatter your illusions, but......[:)]

At the last worker's conference the Man from Porsche did say, and I'm probably misquoting terribly but the principle is there, that the engineers at Porsche have developed the rear-engine layout as far as practical. They are now being caught and overtaken by other cars such as the R8 with their intrinsically better layout. You only have to look at the footprint of the rubber and the electronic trickery to see why a modern 911 stays on the road and puts it's power down. Take the electronics off and you would soon be in a hedge backwards without the driving skills of the Stig or Vicky Butler Henderson. Well, the Stig anyway....[:D][:D]

Interesting to see the layout of several cars now mirroring the 944 for better weight distribution - Maserati, Aston, Alfa etc. Was the 944 the first car with a front-engine/ rear-'box layout?
 
ORIGINAL: zcacogp

Porsche According To Oli.

Early 911's - called 911's. Air cooled. Very very cool.
Next 911's - called 964's. Air cooled. Very very cool indeed.
Next 911's - called 993's. Air cooled. So cool you need thermal underwear to stand near them. More beautiful than Lucy Liu in her bathing costume. Achingly lovely to look at.
Next 911's. Called 996's. Water cooled. Porsche have totally lost the plot. Ghastly. Made by Toyota engineers, using BMW-produced parts (no, really) in huge numbers, thus totally diluting the marque. Suitable only for estate agents, failed bankers and other such pondlife.
Mext 911's. Called 997's. Fractionally better than 996's, but still less pleasant than a long wet weekend in Bognor spent sandpapering your knees. Best avoided.

924's/944's/968's. Not really Porsches - more particularly good Volkswagens (ignore the badge on the bonnet). Disappointing engines, but superb to drive due to brilliant layout.

928's. Lovely engineering. Suck Saudi Arabia dry each and every time you start them. Unsuitable for current UK fuel prices on this basis alone. (Ignore all that Brett "I love Nitrous" 928-enthusiast says - he's just an N2O addict.)

There, I think that's covered it.


Oli.
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I reckon you have just about offended every member on here Oli ... well done.[;)]
 
ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty
Was the 944 the first car with a front-engine/ rear-'box layout?
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Wikipedia is your friend : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transaxle
Seems like the Stutz Bearcat's transmission worked with chains, so the first car with a modern style gearbox would be the Lancia Aurelia (at some point my father had a B24 convertible [:)])
 
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