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[Neil Haughey]

Just because lots of ppl on an internet forum agree about something doesn't make them right. I have my own mind and my own judgement and that says I won't be putting T1-R's on a car again.

The magazine tests are the only true objective tests we as the consumer have to hand so why place so little faith in them?

 

[Hilux]

The magazine tests are the only true objective tests we as the consumer have to hand so why place so little faith in them?

Because they are just a concensus.

Doesnt mean its right however it sorts the wheat from the chaff so eliminating a lot of chaff.

Then research the wheat amongst your peers.

 

[nathan 1981 930 G50]

ORIGINAL: Flick

ORIGINAL: 944 man

All reviews/opinions are subjective, arent they?  Thats why Kia do so well in pointless JDPower surveys, whilst Mercedes and Jaguar fair so poorly. The owners are more easily pleased, as opposed to the cars being better.....

I'm not with you there:

Q) Has your Kia broken down in the last three years?
A) No
Q) How were any recalls handled?
A) It didn't have any recalls
Q) How was your warranty claims handled?
A) I didn't have any warranty claims
Q) How did you find the aftersales care?
A) I've only gone back for routine servincing, I was given a cup of coffee and a comfy chair then a £90 bill after an hour and went home.
Q) Overall how would you rate Kia?
A) Can't complain.

Lets face it Kia owners aren't discussing £1800 extended warranties in their o/c forums.

Our brand new Kia (2004) has been, and still is great. I can second all the above Q's and A's. It's just that IMO it's a horrible car [8|]

 

[edh]

ORIGINAL: Hilux

ALWAYS ask your peer group what they use, particularly the racing fraternity, learn from experience.

The tyre tests are always subjective and different drivers/cars temperatures surfaces etc make a big difference.

Interestingly the tests seem to be based on manufacturers tyre pressures whereas subtle pressure differences reap rewards with different tyres.

Quite right - the Previous owner of my car won the BARC sprint champs in it on T1-R's [] He's a much better driver than I'll ever be, so I've just used the car exactly as he set it up []

 

[Hilux]

Quite right - the Previous owner of my car won the BARC sprint champs in it on T1-R's [] He's a much better driver than I'll ever be, so I've just used the car exactly as he set it up []

Excellent news. []

Tyres and their capability are all based upon a number of factors including geometry, caster, camber, ARB`s etc etc but one factor thats often overlooked is that you need also to match the tyre weight rating. A heavily rated tyre means a light car will not be able to utilise the tyre wall compliance in the same way a heavier car could and vice versa. We all know that some tyre wall compliance not only helps reduce shock/tramping but is necessary as it helps keep the tyre surface flat as the car leans. Less lean - less compliance needed. Particularly with firm track set ups.

Its why you shouldnt fit rubber bands to 944`s.