Tiptronic Vs Manual?

[chrismouzou]

hi tony

auto on other halfs car,manual on turbo,always found it akward when turning and trying to change with auto on steering wheel imo




chris

 

[waltong]

Called OPC in East London and they have a manual Turbo so i'll go and frighten myself! I asked him about the impending facelift 997 and he said probably next summer for the 2 wheel drives and another 6 months for the 4 wheel. Too long to wait i feel.

 

[chrismouzou]

have driven opc east london demo car great, had 3 test drives man turbo, great round docklands,and then onto m11 and back to opc





chris

 

[waltong]

Chris.
Did you buy from East London? Good dealer?

 

[chrismouzou]

hi

yes bought all my porsches from east london, always supplied with courtesy cars all porsches, picking turbo up from factory this thursday always helpfull at opc dealt with bradon & s.jackson



chris

 

[Dylan1]

ORIGINAL: Ronnie C

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ORIGINAL: Tony M



Who wants to be bothered waggling a gear stick around ?

If manual gaerboxes are so good, why don't F1 cars have them ?

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[FONT=arial"]horses for courses... if you want to argue this out then surely the ultimate conclusion would be to have F1 cars that are fully automated, ie no drivers - self braking, self steering, etc, etc. BORING.
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[FONT=arial"]My understanding of the Turbo tip to manual sales is that these cars are according to sales, purchased by older buyers who tend to prefer autos.
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[FONT=arial"]If you are in the market, I wouldn't make your decision based on driving a manual C4S - it definitely is not the same. The manual clutch in the Turbo is significantly lighter than compared with the standard Carerra clutches.
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that may be the case in uk but in the us market paradoxically it tends to be younger drivers with the tips and older with manuals-so i was informed by a dealer in new england

 

[waltong]

Chris.
It was Bradon I spoke with today. If we do the deal I'll make sure he gives you some Porsche fluffy dice!

 

[Lancerlot]

Hi,
I was enjoying a briskish drive around Wales last weekend in my manual 997TT, but I found this bloke in a Tip in front kept holding me up!
Regards,
Clive

 

[Ronnie C]

ORIGINAL: dyllan

ORIGINAL: Ronnie C

ORIGINAL: Tony M



Who wants to be bothered waggling a gear stick around ?

If manual gaerboxes are so good, why don't F1 cars have them ?

horses for courses... if you want to argue this out then surely the ultimate conclusion would be to have F1 cars that are fully automated, ie no drivers - self braking, self steering, etc, etc. BORING.

My understanding of the Turbo tip to manual sales is that these cars are according to sales, purchased by older buyers who tend to prefer autos.

If you are in the market, I wouldn't make your decision based on driving a manual C4S - it definitely is not the same. The manual clutch in the Turbo is significantly lighter than compared with the standard Carerra clutches.

that may be the case in uk but in the us market paradoxically it tends to be younger drivers with the tips and older with manuals-so i was informed by a dealer in new england

Yes, I'm presuming from the context of this site that the original poster is British.

As for Americans... being able to drive a stick is considered advanced, [8|] hence any hollywood movie involving a manual car having to have endless clips of the gear change action - wow amazing !!!

 

[Guest]

Surely it's down to your personal preference.

I've had auto cars for some years now and drove a tiptronic 2001 996 before buyin a manual C4S.

I found both cars great to drive and the tiptronic certainly is useful in town or heavy stop/go traffic - but I do like the controllability of a manual box and the ability to put it in whichever gear you want before an overtake etc.

Whichever you choose - enjoy!

 

[Tony M]

ORIGINAL: Dave C4S

I do like the controllability of a manual box and the ability to put it in whichever gear you want before an overtake etc.

The Tip box will do that for you. If you are sitting behind waiting to overtake, if you blip the throttle the box will change to the optimum gear to match your present road speed in anticipation of the overtaking action. The car will then sit in that gear without changing up. To my way of thinking, this takes the gueswork out of selecting the optimum gear manually. []

 

[Francois]

My first test drive in a 911 was a tiptronic and I was seriously considering of opting for the Tiptronic on my 997 C4S. At the end I went for the 'short shift' manual instead and I'm very happy of my choice.

I'm also considering the Turbo but as my car is only a few months old I will wait for the "998"? version hopefully next year.

 

[waltong]

I must say the whole facelift when will it happen thing is a right pain! It's bad enough living with falling residuals, let alone having to hear from your OPC that as yours is the old model it'll be harder to sell story! It's holding me back from signing on the dotted line when the whole process is meant to be a pleasure! Porsche should provide a date and then we can all decide what to do!

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[Gary C]

ORIGINAL: Tony M



Who wants to be bothered waggling a gear stick around ?

I do, its harder to do well and therfore more rewarding.

ORIGINAL:Tony M

If manual gaerboxes are so good, why don't F1 cars have them ?

Because they don't care how much fun an F1 car is to drive, just how fast they can go round a track.

 

[chrismouzou]

got the dice already ,nuisance when there hanging off the rear view mirror cant see nothing[][][]

ORIGINAL: waltong

Chris.
It was Bradon I spoke with today. If we do the deal I'll make sure he gives you some Porsche fluffy dice!

 

[Ronnie C]

ORIGINAL: FrancoisSav

My first test drive in a 911 was a tiptronic and I was seriously considering of opting for the Tiptronic on my 997 C4S. At the end I went for the 'short shift' manual instead and I'm very happy of my choice.

I'm also considering the Turbo but as my car is only a few months old I will wait for the "998"? version hopefully next year.

998 is not due for at least 3 years.

997.5 is out next year for the Carerras.

 

[Dylan1]

ORIGINAL: Gary C

ORIGINAL: Tony M



Who wants to be bothered waggling a gear stick around ?

I do, its harder to do well and therfore more rewarding.

ORIGINAL:Tony M

If manual gaerboxes are so good, why don't F1 cars have them ?

Because they don't care how much fun an F1 car is to drive, just how fast they can go round a track.

as professional drivers will tell you gary,the changing gear is the very easy bit,its all the rest-setting the car up in the correct way ,steering in the best way etc etc etc that are the tricky involving bits,the advantage of flappy and tips is you are free to concentrate on these"rewarding"bits[]
BTW i can assure you,F1 cars are GREAT fun to drive[][][]

 

[Gary C]

ORIGINAL: dyllan

as professional drivers will tell you gary,the changing gear is the very easy bit,its all the rest-setting the car up in the correct way ,steering in the best way etc etc etc that are the tricky involving bits,the advantage of flappy and tips is you are free to concentrate on these"rewarding"bits[]
BTW i can assure you,F1 cars are GREAT fun to drive[][][]

I don't agree.

Timing a gear change while toe&heel while setting the car is all part of the fun. Not that its the main part, just a part that adds to the whole experience.

As to F1 cars, my point is they don't have to be fun, they would not care if a sequential paddle shift was less fun, just as long as it was faster. They would use a CV gearbox if they could and get rid of changes totally.

 

[Lancerlot]

ORIGINAL: waltong
My heart tells be it would be a sin not to have a manual. Is the manual Turbo gearbox the same as a C4S? If this is a really silly question.....sorry! My dealer reckons tubo sales are 50/50 manual v Tip.

Hi Geoff,
I'm pretty sure the 2 gearboxes are not the same.
As regards your decision, I chose manual for my 997TT on the basis that the Trip loses a ratio and I much prefer a 6 speed box. Generally, I'm not keen on automatic transmission for a sports car because of inefficiencies and it would appear that some manufacturers agree - hence development of the DSG paddle-shift system.
Good luck with your choice!
Regards,
Clive

 

[waltong]

Thanks Clive. Going to pop into OPC East London next week and get out in the manual. I can then use the 2 grand i'll save and waste it on some shiny bits! Keep looking at those yellow calipers............but i'm sure that will be another thread!! []