to touch or not too!
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Richard Savage
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Steve - I'm gona have to ponder on that one until tomorrow - might be in for a sleepless night!
R.
adamtsobek
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When I bought mine it had non standard wheels, cups. The only other things I have changed are some anodized gauge bezels, door handles gearknob mainly because the whole cokpit is dark blue and this has brightened it up a little.
Don't plan to make any other changes
Regards
Adam
Don't plan to make any other changes
Regards
Adam
bones
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Mine's fairly stock really apart from the steering wheel, gauge faces, gear knob, alloy pieces scattered hither and thither in the generally custom interior. Oh!.... early gearbox and driveshafts, backdated exhaust and heating, cup wheels, 964 body parts, other than that it's bog standard. I hate change: [
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Richard Savage
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Steve - I fully support the above response. Certainly if we're talking about regular road use only anyway.
Mechanically, given that Porsche AG must spend millions developing a particular model, changing things, has got to be detrimental. For example, improve the acceleration - lower the miles per gallon. Fit wheel spacers - increase the stress on the bearing assemblies.
Also, body-wise, keep it original. Change the spoiler - upset the aerodynamics. Change the colour - serious resale problems.
Changing things like this can have a knock-on effect!
We're talking Porsche here, not boy racer Ford Fiesta.
Little aesthetic changes, as adamtsobek has done, for good reasons; or different Wheel Centres [ a'hum! ] I'll go along with. Otherwise, keep it original and spend yer money keepin' it looking that way; and on regular maintenance.
R.
steh
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hi richard, i keep my car 100% as porsche sent it out. i wqs just intrested in what most other members/ forum readers do with theres.
i have this chat with my boy (17 y/o ) who is into all the jap stuff, i tell him that millions are spent on research and then the boy racers go and wonder why there little 1.2 lost control ith the big spoiler on the roof,,.guess we are all young once.
steve
i have this chat with my boy (17 y/o ) who is into all the jap stuff, i tell him that millions are spent on research and then the boy racers go and wonder why there little 1.2 lost control ith the big spoiler on the roof,,.guess we are all young once.
steve
Richard Savage
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Steve - That statement certainly makes my lovely new Wheel Centres a no, no then. Oh booger!
I guess I was much the same when I was younger, well in my 20's anyway, driving THE car of the 60's, a Mini Cooper [ Red of course! ]. Added lots of 'bits', but never messed with the body or the mechanics. Didn't need to.
R.
steh
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what great cars. i can remember my dads 1275 gt in about 1972, i was 4/5 yr old. he then had a escort gt i think, i cant ask him as he passed away some time ago but i often think to myself what he would say about my 911.
we were driving down the A1 once and a 911 went flying past us (problay 1976ish) and looked at me and said cor look at that go, i love to have one of them.
any how, back to the minis, i bought my wife one about 8 years ago ,1985 1000 auto, used to fill it up and forgot about petrol. until one day the suspension arm feel off as i came around the corner, just glad i was driving and not her.
steve
steve
we were driving down the A1 once and a 911 went flying past us (problay 1976ish) and looked at me and said cor look at that go, i love to have one of them.
any how, back to the minis, i bought my wife one about 8 years ago ,1985 1000 auto, used to fill it up and forgot about petrol. until one day the suspension arm feel off as i came around the corner, just glad i was driving and not her.
steve
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Richard Savage
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My first car was a Mini [ Wooden ] Traveller, followed by a Mini Super Delux, then a Mini Cooper, then another Mini Cooper, then ............... a Ford Escort 1300 GT.
R.
Greetings
For whats its worth I believe a totally "original car" might secure a better resale value. However if your going to keep the car for hundred years it ain't goona make a pigs burp of a difference. My motor has a H&S sports exhaust system, different "chip" and a K&N filter. It makes all the right sounds and goes well [], and can all be reversed if the next punter wants it "Original"
So problem solved!
For whats its worth I believe a totally "original car" might secure a better resale value. However if your going to keep the car for hundred years it ain't goona make a pigs burp of a difference. My motor has a H&S sports exhaust system, different "chip" and a K&N filter. It makes all the right sounds and goes well [
], and can all be reversed if the next punter wants it "Original"So problem solved!
Guest
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To all those "keep it original" types, can I ask you this: Who are you keeping it original for?
I say, do whatever you like to it. Whatever makes you happy. Its only money. I am certainly not saving my car for anyone. I am spending foolish amounts of money to make it what I want. I have no plans to sell it so I don't really care what anyone else thinks. We pay enough in insurance, road tax, petrol, maintenance anyway, why not spend some more to make it waht you really want.
As for the factory knows best argument, what a load of rubbish. The fact is, the factory designs every car with a certain goal in mind and if that goal isn't the same as the owners then the car can certainly be improved. My car will run rings round a std 3.2 on a race track and that suits me perfectly. Others would hate it for the very same reason - and that is also fine - as their goals and aspirations are not the same as mine. Heck, some of you probably hate my 993 mirrors and Carrera side stripes. I care not a jot.
Just remember, you can't take it with you, and nobody ever died thinking I wish I had driven my Porsche less or even, I wish I had not spent so much money on my Porsche.
Just one more question - who amongst us wouldn't want to go just a little bit faster? Can anyone truthfully say no? Come on, feel the force Luke...
RB
I say, do whatever you like to it. Whatever makes you happy. Its only money. I am certainly not saving my car for anyone. I am spending foolish amounts of money to make it what I want. I have no plans to sell it so I don't really care what anyone else thinks. We pay enough in insurance, road tax, petrol, maintenance anyway, why not spend some more to make it waht you really want.
As for the factory knows best argument, what a load of rubbish. The fact is, the factory designs every car with a certain goal in mind and if that goal isn't the same as the owners then the car can certainly be improved. My car will run rings round a std 3.2 on a race track and that suits me perfectly. Others would hate it for the very same reason - and that is also fine - as their goals and aspirations are not the same as mine. Heck, some of you probably hate my 993 mirrors and Carrera side stripes. I care not a jot.
Just remember, you can't take it with you, and nobody ever died thinking I wish I had driven my Porsche less or even, I wish I had not spent so much money on my Porsche.
Just one more question - who amongst us wouldn't want to go just a little bit faster? Can anyone truthfully say no? Come on, feel the force Luke...
RB
Richard Savage
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Richard - Are you sure it's the mechanics of your car that's responsible for this, and not your superior driving skill and ability?ORIGINAL: Richard Bernau
............. my car will run rings round a std 3.2 on a race track and that suits me perfectly ..............
RB
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Andy Tims
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I have made lots of non invasive mods & kept all the original bits, so that if I do ever decide to sell I can offer it either as it is, or back to original which I feel is a good compromise.
I certainly wouldn't keep the car standard if that meant compromising my enjoyment - hence things like the brake upgrade, which means I can relly enjoy the car all day on track.
I certainly wouldn't keep the car standard if that meant compromising my enjoyment - hence things like the brake upgrade, which means I can relly enjoy the car all day on track.
Guest
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Yes. While I would love to claim to be a "hot shoe", it would be somewhat misleading. I would describe my driving as competent and quickish within the context of trackdays. With budget, application and tuition I think I could be a competent club racer, but I have no illusions regarding a career in motorsport.
Mine is completely standard apart from
993 engine
Turbo brakes and suspension
H&S exhaust
No heater fan
Cone filter
Upgraded oil cooler
Braided oil lines
Braided fuel lines
No soundproofing
Steel widebody conversion
Lightweight flywheel
RS pulley
Turbo fuchs
I'm all in favour of keeping them original so that when I modify mine I know that there will always be a factory standard model around that I can compare to every now and again []
993 engine
Turbo brakes and suspension
H&S exhaust
No heater fan
Cone filter
Upgraded oil cooler
Braided oil lines
Braided fuel lines
No soundproofing
Steel widebody conversion
Lightweight flywheel
RS pulley
Turbo fuchs
I'm all in favour of keeping them original so that when I modify mine I know that there will always be a factory standard model around that I can compare to every now and again [
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Richard Savage
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steh
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richard bernau,
if you read the post above , i said the younger guys mod them with roof spoilers and so on, porsche and a lot of other car maker's agree that it will unbalance the car if not done with the rest/other parts of the body. a lot of people fit a rear spoiler on a non sport 911 and not the front giving more down force on the rear but makes the front lighter, not a good thing. also some take of the rear spoiler for the more original/old look and leave the front on. a member put up a post a few months ago asking for help with the front of his car being very light to steer at speeds above 85 mph, turns out that he fitted a rear spoiler and not a front to match.
steve
if you read the post above , i said the younger guys mod them with roof spoilers and so on, porsche and a lot of other car maker's agree that it will unbalance the car if not done with the rest/other parts of the body. a lot of people fit a rear spoiler on a non sport 911 and not the front giving more down force on the rear but makes the front lighter, not a good thing. also some take of the rear spoiler for the more original/old look and leave the front on. a member put up a post a few months ago asking for help with the front of his car being very light to steer at speeds above 85 mph, turns out that he fitted a rear spoiler and not a front to match.
steve
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