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Turbo cooling pump

berg944

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How important is it?

Mine has not been connected since a rewire in 1991!!!

A friend of mine (x turbo owner) has told me to leave the engine idling a minute before
turning off to cool the turbo.

Mike
 
How important is it?

As I understand, it was introduced by Porsche as a knee jerk reaction to 924 Turbos failing. It is obviously a good idea as, when first supplied to red braces city types, such get up and go idividuals couldn't be trusted to let their cars idle for a few minutes after "...giving the old girl a good thrashing, what!"

Many American racing tuners exclude the water cooling on upgraded turbos which would perhaps suggest that, if handled with care and allowed to cool after thrashing, it is an unnecessary complication. It is the "...if handled with care and allowed to cool after thrashing..." bit that is important.
 
I'm sure my turbo pump is on the blink too - does anyone know cost of replacing and if it can be done myself (moderately experienced diy mechanic) ??
 
Hi

The pump also works off a temp sensor switch on the engine, which is sometimes a bit wobbly!!! Plugs in right at the front top section as you first look in the engine bay. You can check if this is working by shorting it out with a short peice of wire to the bodywork. Sometimes these switches fail (I believe they are £40 ish although I may be wrong).

Also the pumps squeal or fail as they become misaligned and a quick dismantle and re-assembly helps it free itself up (again I read this somewhere, so correct me if I am wrong)

My pump was seized when I bought my car so I replaced it in May of this year.
Part cost was £145.59 and they charged me £45.83 to fit it, although I do not think it would be that difficult to fit, I was just being lazy.

Hope this is of some help

Lee
 
Yes, IIRC Porsche calculated/decided that 27 seconds was the optimum running time for the cooler after switching off the engine.
 
While we're at it, the turbo cooling pump was upgraded (I couldn't tell when) :

Original model :

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Updated model :

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Will leaving the engine idling for 27 seconds have the same effect as the pump?

No. I'm no authority on the subject, but essentially when an engine runs at high power/high torque, the turbocharger is operating at very high temperatures and speeds. Hot shutdown can reduce the life of the turbocharger; to avoid this you should make sure the turbocharger has time to cool, and in the absence of a pump it is best to leave the engine to idle for a minute or two before switching off after a spirited drive. Alternatively, don't rev high or use the turbo in the last 5 miles or so of your journey.
 
Yes it should ALWAYS run for 30 seconds after switch off no matter what temperature it's at.

If the car is very hot it will run longer than 30 seconds.
 
Oh crap [:eek:]. Series of dumb questions coming up:

1) Given prior experiences, am I looking at the thermostat or the pump itself as the likely culprit?
2) Where are afforementioned items located?
3) Given 2, how easy or otherwise are they to remove/replace?
4) £?
 
I have a pump in the garage - should have the thermostat too, but then again it's probably plugging a hole in my water jacket and I honsetly haven't looked [:(][FONT=verdana,geneva"] [FONT=verdana,geneva"]As I recall there is a way of testing it by connecting across pins on the thermostat, but I've never had a problem so I don't know the detail. If you figure out it's the pump I can sort you out with one. It's probably not worth the hassle of swapping my good thermostat with your bad one if that's the culprit though as I assume it would mean losing some of my whizzy expensive antifreeze. Of course if it turns out I can get my thermostat off without losing coolant/having to disassemble half the engine then you can have that, it's not like it matters to my car if it works or not.[FONT=verdana,geneva"]
 
Tony knows a bit about the Turbo pump and I notice he's just started posting on Titanic so he's obviously back from wherever he's been and will probably catch up on here soon.

A search of this forum on 'wobbly switch' may yield some info.
 
Hi, yes back for a couple of days then off again - hopefully back for next weekend so ican put my car back together.
Grounding the lead that goes to the temp sensor should make the pump run (ignition may have to be on), this should let you checkif the pump is working reliably. I am not sure where the 30 second delay is controlled from, probably, one of the relays.
Tony
 
should run for circa 30 seconds every time you stop the engine - no matter how short the run time.

Grounding the wire on top of the temp sensor (to left of turbo) should make the pump run, the sensor works by grounding that wire at IIRC 115 degrees C

I guess the relay controls the 30 second run after switch off. but it is just a guess.

Tony

 
I'm not aware of the turbo coolant pump being an unreliable part so if you can determine it is your pump at fault you'll probably get away with sourcing one from one of the many breakers around the country like Porsche-a-part and PH Sportscars.
 

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