Turbo S Boost Gauge ?
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Car's with the OPC now. They took it for a drive & a warning popped up saying PCM failure. Something odd's going on.
They're awaiting help from Germany.
Greg
PS I'll take advice here: Since this problem seems to be confined to my car, if it's of no particular interest to others I won't post the events. I'll carry on till told to stop by the moderators if that's ok...[
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Car's with the OPC now. They took it for a drive & a warning popped up saying PCM failure. Something odd's going on.
They're awaiting help from Germany.
Greg
PS I'll take advice here: Since this problem seems to be confined to my car, if it's of no particular interest to others I won't post the events. I'll carry on till told to stop by the moderators if that's ok...[
]Ok, then.
The moderators might want to delete some or all of this as it's a reply from my OPC after I'd asked them what's going on. Names are mentioned and I'm not sure what the PGGB rules are about this. The text seems to be an exchange from the OPC to/from Germany:
"/12/2010 10:09:27 AM , C.J/N.S: Customer is complaining that he can't get his Turbo boost guage to show in the instrument cluster. Nick went out to the customer with a tester on Fri and tried a vehicle handover, PCM re-code and instrument cluster re-code but to no avail. We think it may be instrument cluster related as the instrument cluster comes up with the message "caution 1 code operation missing", also the PCM doesn't seem to be showing full funtionality to the sports chrono package. Could this be to do with the enabling code for the power upgrade (it's a Turbo S) as Nick can't find anywhere to input it. We have the vehicle in today and Nick has tried all the above again with the new system tester but it's still the same, infact it seems to have accuired a couple of additional issues. (please see photos attached which were on the old testers and not the new one) Your views and any ideas on the subject will, as always, be greatfully received. Best regards as always. C.
10/12/10 12:47:14 PM , R.P: The power kit enabling code is only required when the DME (DFI) CU is re-programmed. Boost gauge: I assume you mean thar the boost gauge cannot be selected via the IC menu! Re-check the coding with ref. to: 997 Coding Manual for PIWIS Software V26.010 - Ammended Informnation - 29.03.10. Once the data has been saved, ensure the correct values are shown.
Chrono Info: Re-enter the activation codes for the Chrono in both the VES and PCM3.0 CUs.
10/12/2010 4:31:41 PM , C.J/N.S: Hi Richard. We have gone through all the coding as you suggested and it seems to have sorted the issues with the sports chrono in the PCM but we still have the problem (which was the customers original complaint) about the boost guage not showing or being able to be selected in the instrument cluster display. I have attached an additional photo of the tester screen showing the message that comes up on the tester. We have just had another Gen 2 Turbo S turn up on a new car delivery and it works on that one straight off the truck without any coding having been done. Any more ideas? Regards. C.
10/13/10 12:23:51 PM , R.P: I've now looked at a car here: The boost gauge was present until I re-coded the IC, after this it was missing. There is a bug in the PIWIS Tester SW that will be addressed with the next update (End of October). If you need to fix this before then the Tester will require back dating to V27. Please DO NOT code any other Turbo car ICs, at present."
Anyone know what a PIWIS Tester is? It seems to have caused the problem and who knows what other ones.
The dealer principle has asked if I'd like to go back to them again at the end of October when this PIWIS thing gets an update. I've said no, sort it out now.
Getting cheezed off.
Greg
The moderators might want to delete some or all of this as it's a reply from my OPC after I'd asked them what's going on. Names are mentioned and I'm not sure what the PGGB rules are about this. The text seems to be an exchange from the OPC to/from Germany:
"/12/2010 10:09:27 AM , C.J/N.S: Customer is complaining that he can't get his Turbo boost guage to show in the instrument cluster. Nick went out to the customer with a tester on Fri and tried a vehicle handover, PCM re-code and instrument cluster re-code but to no avail. We think it may be instrument cluster related as the instrument cluster comes up with the message "caution 1 code operation missing", also the PCM doesn't seem to be showing full funtionality to the sports chrono package. Could this be to do with the enabling code for the power upgrade (it's a Turbo S) as Nick can't find anywhere to input it. We have the vehicle in today and Nick has tried all the above again with the new system tester but it's still the same, infact it seems to have accuired a couple of additional issues. (please see photos attached which were on the old testers and not the new one) Your views and any ideas on the subject will, as always, be greatfully received. Best regards as always. C.
10/12/10 12:47:14 PM , R.P: The power kit enabling code is only required when the DME (DFI) CU is re-programmed. Boost gauge: I assume you mean thar the boost gauge cannot be selected via the IC menu! Re-check the coding with ref. to: 997 Coding Manual for PIWIS Software V26.010 - Ammended Informnation - 29.03.10. Once the data has been saved, ensure the correct values are shown.
Chrono Info: Re-enter the activation codes for the Chrono in both the VES and PCM3.0 CUs.
10/12/2010 4:31:41 PM , C.J/N.S: Hi Richard. We have gone through all the coding as you suggested and it seems to have sorted the issues with the sports chrono in the PCM but we still have the problem (which was the customers original complaint) about the boost guage not showing or being able to be selected in the instrument cluster display. I have attached an additional photo of the tester screen showing the message that comes up on the tester. We have just had another Gen 2 Turbo S turn up on a new car delivery and it works on that one straight off the truck without any coding having been done. Any more ideas? Regards. C.
10/13/10 12:23:51 PM , R.P: I've now looked at a car here: The boost gauge was present until I re-coded the IC, after this it was missing. There is a bug in the PIWIS Tester SW that will be addressed with the next update (End of October). If you need to fix this before then the Tester will require back dating to V27. Please DO NOT code any other Turbo car ICs, at present."
Anyone know what a PIWIS Tester is? It seems to have caused the problem and who knows what other ones.
The dealer principle has asked if I'd like to go back to them again at the end of October when this PIWIS thing gets an update. I've said no, sort it out now.
Getting cheezed off.
Greg
garyw
Moderator
Great information Greg and fully understandable why you might be getting cheezed off!!
However it does seem that the dealer is being open and straight with you - and on your side- it could be worse.
It doesn't make it right though[]
garyw
PS- as long as you have their permission to reproduce the email - I've removed the chrisitan names to make it safer...
However it does seem that the dealer is being open and straight with you - and on your side- it could be worse.
It doesn't make it right though[
]garyw
PS- as long as you have their permission to reproduce the email - I've removed the chrisitan names to make it safer...
Phone call from my local PC confirms (I had mentioned it to them!) all dealerships have been informed (as of today) to not program the instrument cluster as part of the PDI due to this software issue on the PIWIS which corrupts the installed factory software (or something along those lines anyway!) Resolution of the problem is not far off, apparently[]
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For completeness let me add:
My car was delivered at the end of July. As noted earlier in the thread I am currently able to display, inter alia, boost on the central line of the display in the IC.
We know from Greg's recent experience that OPCs using the PIWIS to code the IC as part of PDI cause functionality problems (at least to boost display) to systems that were working when they left the factory.
The conclusion I draw from this is my car was PDI'd (i) with a PIWIS Tester that was up to date at the time which was before subsequent updates to the Tester caused PDI problems or (ii) was PDI'd with a Tester that was out of date or (iii) wasn't PDI'd with a Tester at all.
I have asked OPC to investigate and let me know as there may be other gremlins and bugs that have been transferred or not as the case may be. All this electrickery makes me nervous.
My car was delivered at the end of July. As noted earlier in the thread I am currently able to display, inter alia, boost on the central line of the display in the IC.
We know from Greg's recent experience that OPCs using the PIWIS to code the IC as part of PDI cause functionality problems (at least to boost display) to systems that were working when they left the factory.
The conclusion I draw from this is my car was PDI'd (i) with a PIWIS Tester that was up to date at the time which was before subsequent updates to the Tester caused PDI problems or (ii) was PDI'd with a Tester that was out of date or (iii) wasn't PDI'd with a Tester at all.
I have asked OPC to investigate and let me know as there may be other gremlins and bugs that have been transferred or not as the case may be. All this electrickery makes me nervous.
Subject closed?
The OPC back dated their PIWIS to V27, plugged it into the car & did the needful.
Boost gauge up and running and all seems good and normal.
Rattling was a combination of something behind the dials and a loose engine bay cover thing.
Hopefully all resolved.
Thanks everyone,
Greg
The OPC back dated their PIWIS to V27, plugged it into the car & did the needful.
Boost gauge up and running and all seems good and normal.
Rattling was a combination of something behind the dials and a loose engine bay cover thing.
Hopefully all resolved.
Thanks everyone,
Greg
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