db@944s.co.uk
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Nice to see a 2.7 coupe at almost £9000!
Is this the UK's most expensive 944?
http://www.911virgin.com/944rev.htm
Is this the UK's most expensive 944?
http://www.911virgin.com/944rev.htm
UK's most expensive 2.7?
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£6 grand for the 2.5 they are selling seems equally cheeky! Their silence over mileage would suggest they're not especially low...The £18k turbo cab on the members for sale forum seems a bargain in comparison!
mik_ok
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To be fair, it is being offered (in typical 911virgin style) for only £7k "millenium bug" price (without the indy inspection, everything sorted, and warranty). Actually that doesn't sound fair at all [
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There was a 60k mile Concours S2 cab on pistonheads last year for £16K ~ no idea if it sold.
] . There was a 60k mile Concours S2 cab on pistonheads last year for £16K ~ no idea if it sold.
mik_ok
New member
I believe that's just another 911virgin-ism. They won't quote mileage (even if you call them and ask apparently ~ never dealt with them myself) as Henry insists it's not indicative of a car's condition or (therefore) worth. Which is a view shared by many....but refusal to discuss the subject must turn a few potential buyers away (?)
would put me off if they won't discuss it on the phone - would be a long way to go without knowing (especially for £9k!). understand the arguments for high milers and that you can get (usually different) problems with low milers though. At nearly 20 years old condition is all but certain components are bound to give up above a certain mileage. Still, it looks nice though!
legally a trader isn't allowed to misrepresent mileage. i would have thought that to many people, me included, one of the major attractions of buying from a well regarded specialist is that you are not buying a clocked car. if i'm paying a premium price, i want a premium product. less so on an old 944 but if i was buying a £30k 996 i would expect verified mileage and would need to buy a low miler if i was going to put 15k a year on it and hope to resell for sensible money a couple of years down the line. Still, it must work for him, think concept of 911virgin is genius and i'd happily buy the right car from them.
carlmthompson
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Not quoting mileage to customers is just pompous stupidity.
Some might say an excuse to over inflate the price of cars based on reputation - which I'm sure is impecable, but then again, so would every used car dealers if they had that sort of margin to deal with.
I can guarantee that when buying cars to sell, mileage will be a factor in how much is paid.
For god's sake, it's white n all (sorry white car owners, no offence ment, but like it or lump it, it affects the value used).
Some might say an excuse to over inflate the price of cars based on reputation - which I'm sure is impecable, but then again, so would every used car dealers if they had that sort of margin to deal with.
I can guarantee that when buying cars to sell, mileage will be a factor in how much is paid.
For god's sake, it's white n all (sorry white car owners, no offence ment, but like it or lump it, it affects the value used).
sawood12
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If milage is so irrelevant then why not disclose it? Not handing over information especially when asked just makes it look like they've got something to hide. There might be other reasons why milage is important to a potential buyer after accepting hight milage cars are still good - you might be trying to work out the timing belt service interval or weigh up the first couple of years maintenance needs - i'd rather have a car with an extra 30k miles on it if I knew it had had a recent new clutch for example. Milage is a pretty essential piece of information for anyone buying any car. Next he'll be saying "You don't need a service history with these cars, they're bullet proof, honest guv..."
I don't think his cars are usually especially expensive and I don't know if he would refuse to tell someone the mileage if aksed straight out over the phone as that is a bit weird. I think his point is that mileage is pretty irrelevant when a car gets to be 10+ years old even assuming it can be trusted (which is quite unlikely with a lot of older Porsches which share the perfect combination of lots of owner changes, wearing miles well, being relatively valuable and easy to clock). It's much more of an issue on younger cars.
mik_ok
New member
Very true, but even taking that into account I'm still not sure it's worth as much as £7K / £9K [8D]
As I understand it Henry won't talk mileages even when asked directly. This isn't based upon personal experience - just comments I've read (on here in the 993 section) from frustrated potential customers, reluctant to drive several hours to get there if the car they are interested in has 250k on the clock. But it obviously works for him. [&:]
pauljmcnulty
Active member
They were happy to tell me the mileage of the car I was looking at over the phone. They also told me I would be a tw*t to pay any attention to mileage on a 19-year-old car. As we all know, a low-use 944 can be worse than a high-mileage car.
Theirs was an honest '87 Lux, with good history, 120k and a gearbox re-build. Bad news was slight rust, dented wing, belt service due and scruffy wheels. They dropped from £5k all fixed and warrantied to £2.5 sold-as-seen. They also told me that the other car I had seen was a better deal, and to snap it up before it went to someone else.
I'd go there again, and would recommend them, but I'd haggle []
Theirs was an honest '87 Lux, with good history, 120k and a gearbox re-build. Bad news was slight rust, dented wing, belt service due and scruffy wheels. They dropped from £5k all fixed and warrantied to £2.5 sold-as-seen. They also told me that the other car I had seen was a better deal, and to snap it up before it went to someone else.
I'd go there again, and would recommend them, but I'd haggle [
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pauljmcnulty
Active member
Look around you, white is going to become the new silver!
New Golf looks great in white.
I'd buy a white 944 as an investment [8|]
ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty
They were happy to tell me the mileage of the car I was looking at over the phone. They also told me I would be a tw*t to pay any attention to mileage on a 19-year-old car. As we all know, a low-use 944 can be worse than a high-mileage car.
Theirs was an honest '87 Lux, with good history, 120k and a gearbox re-build. Bad news was slight rust, dented wing, belt service due and scruffy wheels. They dropped from £5k all fixed and warrantied to £2.5 sold-as-seen. They also told me that the other car I had seen was a better deal, and to snap it up before it went to someone else.
I'd go there again, and would recommend them, but I'd haggle [
Milage is relavent
My car has done a lot of miles, and had an engine rebuild, but I still expect things to go wrong with it as they wear out - I've just had the 2 gearbox's for the hood replaced, and the clutch pedal is grating a bit..
The engines, bodywork and major components are well built and designed for a long life, but eventually things give up the ghost. As we are all aware, the repair / replacement of relatively minor items can still end up with a substantial bill, especially in relation to the value of the car.
High milage cars are cheaper because of this, so the milage is definately relevant. I got my car for a good price, but with my eyes open to the potential downside
Pete
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