pauljmcnulty
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Why not just use the free Club Member valuation? It's an approved insurance valuation, by post, and costs nothing. [8|]
Use other current adds to support you cars value ie http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1039985.htm I find if you help them they return the favour[ORIGINAL: ianmcg Like many Haggerty refugees I have changed insurer and now need a valuation (despite having an invoice less than a year old). What's the best answer? I presume Herr Schmitz will do it but is there an easy UK way. I'd rather not have to the take the car anywhere though. Ian
Yep, download the form from the website. Go to "about PCGB", "help & advice", and you'll find "valuations". Should take a couple of weeks to turn around but it's a valuation approved by the insurance industry.I didn't know there was one...will try that. Thanks.
I think that any car with special history can't be valued on the basis of comparisons with other "similar" cars. Look at the difference in 2.7RS prices across Europe, depending on how recent the restoration was, who did it, spec and colour. I would get a valuation from someone like Josh Sadler, who knows the market for these cars as well as anyone.ORIGINAL: epoch911 This looks very handy - Sorry to hijack a 993RS thread (but it's still relevant hopefully!) - I'm looking at getting a valuation for my 2.7RS at the moment... how does the club take into account the history of a car as opposed to merely its condition/service history? - can't see anything on the form that relates? So much of a car's value can be attributed to provenance that I presume it must have a bearing on valuation?
I can only speak for the 944s I know well. The difference between "market" valuation, i.e. what an insurer will offer you, and "agreed value", which the insurer HAS to pay you, are ridiculous. Probably a factor of three or four times, although the insurer's first "market" offer is only their starting point. Obviously we're talking a different league of car here, but why would any insurer offer any more than they could get away with unless you've agreed a value? You can't get an agreed value that's way over the odds, it has to be fair, but I can't see why it's not the only sensible way to go.So have I lost the plot with market valuation or should I go for agreed value?
I agree totally. But, £1K on a 944 could be 50% off on value. I've seen worse, cars valued by insurers on their "market assesment" at a third or a quarter of their real value. Even after a battle I've never seen them get a proper payout, and who needs the hassle after a theft or write-off accident? Assessors earn their living by reducing payouts by the largest amount possible. As an example, a guy with a very decent 944 got an agreed value for double the market value of his model. That was based on buying the best on the market, and then bringing it up to the condition his was in. Not concourse, but original and exceptional condition. Of course, if his car rocketed in value from £15K to £60K over a few weeks, he'd potentially lose out. In the real world values don't move that quickly, and you could get another valuation if you felt it was necessary. To me, the more difficult to value a car is, the more an insurer wil try to wriggle out of a full payout. Steve Kevlin has decades of experience within the Porsche world, and in my experience he will be open to your opinion on the car's value. If you don't like the valuation, there's nothing lost and you can bin it. [With respect, you could find recently transacted values of any 944 variant (maybe not Cup) within the last 6 months and probably not be more than £1k or so away from fair value with the assesor, with cars such as rarer 993, we are looking at intrinsic valuation that may be within £10-20k apart? With prices moving as they have, I wonder of agreed value could potentially leave an owner out of pocket if they chose to replace the car.
Part of the intrigue. A C16 first registered in Germany four months before the first show car was presented at the Amsterdam motor show in March 1995. I asked Tony Hatter, he said that it was the luck of the draw. There was no reason why it should not be RHD ... Though maybe it got the car away from Germany once testing was finished ? For what it's worth, the Audi R8 test cars were all supposedly crushed at the end ...ORIGINAL: Mike Cooper 33 Chris, Intruiged by your car and its history. I do some work for Porsche internationally and they were telling me thatt they do not have a 993RS in the museum collection! I find this slightly hard to believe but will attempt to verify, I know they have a 964RS. Have you any idea why your car, as a development car is RHD? Seems very odd. Cheers
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