WARNING big whinge

[peanut]

god I'm bloody cross tonight . I am so fed up with little things failing on my car. The previous owner seemed to be a reasonably honest guy but in reality he was a right cowboy. There are so many things he didn't declare or bodged up that I didn't spot. He had 2x 944S2 one his one his Son's he seemed really knowledgable .

He had used gaffa tape on the cassette box hinge and to stick the carpet down around the rear hatch switch. I suppose That should have rung alarm bells.

The cills had clearly been filled although he swore they hadn't and he didn't mention that before the sale. He is actually a member on here and advertised the car on this forum

The sunroof cover was missing, the brake pads failed after a few months, The speedo trip reset had been busted , the clock LCD had broken . moan moan whinge whinge.

Yesterday the turbo fans stayed on permantly so I have to remove and replace 2x fuses every trip.
Tonight I tried to adjust the clock light brightness and the rheostat fell into the hole in the dash !

If I saw him again I'd ring his bloddy neck....

the moral of this little tale of woe is don't be misled by the seller's apparent honesty, Take a full check list with you and check and tick every box.
Don't get a lift from someone who is going to hover hopping from foot to foot to get away and definitly do not buy a one way train ticket.


Its lucky I love my S2 I suppose[:-]

 

[Dico]

I've found quite a few minorish faults on mine too. But the cars over 20 years old so it is to be expected really, and to be honest the exceptional bits on the car far outweigh the bad points so overall I'm extremely happy.
Ask me again next month []

 

[cococola]

Always the risk buying used vehicles especially older ones like ours!
Dont get too dispondent peanut just remember the fun that you will still get from your 944 when you droive it.[8|]

 

[sbloxxy]

Trouble is that when it comes to cars, everyone thinks they're an expert. I buy and sell a fair few cars and some of the 'repairs' I come across show a total and utter lack of any mechanical know-how or sympathy. Some of the worse are carried out by owners who actually sound quite knowledgeable when I first talk to them. For example, I bought a Frontera this week (I know...) and the owner gave me chapter & verse on how he'd tried everything and still couldn't get one of the indicators to work: simple answer was that it was dis-connected. The moral (unfortunateley) is not to believe everything you are told. Its a lot easier to talk about fixing cars than it is to actually fix them...

 

[garyw]

ORIGINAL: peanut
the moral of this little tale of woe is don't be misled by the seller's apparent honesty, Take a full check list with you and check and tick every box.
Don't get a lift from someone who is going to hover hopping from foot to foot to get away and definitly do not buy a one way train ticket.

Never a truer word said...

garyw

 

[jason]

Not sure you can blame the seller - he's trying to sell a car - its called buyer beware. Sounds more like it wasn't him that was really knowledgeable but you that weren't...in which case you should have got it inspected by someone who was. Lesson learned.

Some of your major gripes are only minor and usual on cars of this age...just accept that you will have things that fail and the beauty is you get to spend more time fiddling around with your car. Hope the experience improves...great little cars.

 

[geoff Ives]

Expect to be let down.... You will seldom be dissapointed.[:-]

 

[Fred Hindle]

Did you learn that from the missus then Geoff?[][][]

Cheers,

 

[Fred Hindle]

Did you learn that from the missus then Geoff?[][][]

Cheers,

 

[zcacogp]

Peanut,

In fairness, all of those items mentioned are fairly minor (brake pads aside). If it had turned out to have a cam belt within seconds of giving up the ghost, a slipping clutch and serious plate lift it would be a WHOLE LOAD worse.

Those sound like little annoyances, that could be quite satisfying to fix.

The other question has to be how much to paid for it ... if you got a bargain, expect minor niggles.


Oli.

 

[peanut]

I suppose I got what I deserved because I trusted him to be honest and it isn't realistic to trust anybody these days []
I have been a mechanic on my own cars for over 30 years and would never miss anything mechanically wrong with a car . However it is easy to gloss over well disguised cosmetic problems or fail to check minor things like the horn. It always seems so lame to press the horn when inspecting a car lol

Jason . I'm from a differant era than you... one where dishonesty is not considered `acceptable ' its a question of principle . You either have been brought up to consider them a virtue or you hav'nt[]
In my book a man is measured by his integrity not his wallet.

 

[morris944s2john]

I have to agree with some of the above comments. Irritating though the faults may be, they sound quite minor to me, with the exception of perhaps the sills if they turn out to be rusty. And even if they are, hardly uncommon on an old 944.

It doesn't sound like you bought a bad car at all!

 

[John Sims]

ORIGINAL: peanut

.... I'm from a differant era than you... one where dishonesty is not considered `acceptable ' its a question of principle . You either have been brought up to consider them a virtue or you hav'nt[]
In my book a man is measured by his integrity not his wallet.

I agree 100%. It is the whole "Buyer beware" concept that makes buying and selling cars so unpleasant. Potential buyers come along assuming that, as a vendor, you are an under handed cheat and a liar - because that is how other people treat them and perhaps how they carry out their sales.

IMHO there should be more emphasis on an honest transaction. It would make buying and selling far more pleasant. Why should people get away with lumbering an unsuspecting buyer with a heap of rubbish just because the buyer should have been more careful?

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

 

[poprock]

ORIGINAL: John Sims

IMHO there should be more emphasis on an honest transaction. It would make buying and selling far more pleasant. Why should people get away with lumbering an unsuspecting buyer with a heap of rubbish just because the buyer should have been more careful

I honestly think that's why I've had such a hard time trying to sell my Lux. I've written scrupulously honest adverts, mentioning all the things I think might potentially need looking at on the car over the next year or two (as well as listing all the car's many good points, obviously) "¦ I've received plenty of complimentary comments on how good it is to see a "˜proper' advert, but have I sold the car? Have I hell.

 

[peanut]

yes the faults are all probably minor with the possible exception of the cills but then at the price I was happy to take the chance. What I was not happy about was the failure of the owner to mention the rust and cill repair and other stuff BEFORE I drove all the way to Southampton and paid a friend their time and expenses to take me there . That was unforgivable in my book.

The whinge was obviously a tongue in cheek moan and the majority of you saw that and went along. One or two members took the opportunity to show their usual opinionated arragance but hey ho you expect that. `Poster beware ' lol hee hee

No rest assured I love my car soooooo much I would overlook any faults because of the pleasure in the ownership an driving experience.

I was just annoyed at the prospect of having to sort the fan problem out in the foul weather this w/e in time for my new job Monday where I will be commuting 134 miles every day !

 

[peanut]

ORIGINAL: poprock

ORIGINAL: John Sims

IMHO there should be more emphasis on an honest transaction. It would make buying and selling far more pleasant. Why should people get away with lumbering an unsuspecting buyer with a heap of rubbish just because the buyer should have been more careful

I honestly think that's why I've had such a hard time trying to sell my Lux. I've written scrupulously honest adverts, mentioning all the things I think might potentially need looking at on the car over the next year or two (as well as listing all the car's many good points, obviously) "¦ I've received plenty of complimentary comments on how good it is to see a "˜proper' advert, but have I sold the car? Have I hell.

Didn't know you were selling your Lux Tony.
You would seem to have the perfect stable ! a 944T and a runabout Lux []
It is depressing trying to sell any car these days. So many people come along to `kick the tyres' and haggle. They often have no money or they expect a 20 + year old car to look like new ?[]
I sold a 1966 Classic BSA Spitfire a couple of years ago and one chap brought his whole family with him then proceeded to remark on the odd spot of rust or chewed nut or bolt head. He pointed out that there were several non original parts ?? wtf ? its 42 years old .!....... and then they all piled back into the car and left .

Wish you luck anyway. Stick to your guns and eventually you'll get a knowledgable enthusiast buyer that will appreciate the car and your honesty

 

[poprock]

ORIGINAL: peanut

You would seem to have the perfect stable ! a 944T and a runabout Lux []

They're even matching colours, interiors, modifications "¦ the only differences are the alloys and the boooost!

I just don't have the garage space to keep 'em both.

 

[jason]

ORIGINAL: peanut

Jason . I'm from a differant era than you... one where dishonesty is not considered `acceptable ' its a question of principle . You either have been brought up to consider them a virtue or you hav'nt[]
In my book a man is measured by his integrity not his wallet.

I'm not sure I'm happy on your inference that you have been brought up different to me or that I don't consider honesty a virtue.

Every person that buys cars off me gets them immaculately presented and all of the problem areas pointed out in advance.

Everyone I have bought from does the same as I do my research and ask the right questions and know what to check or get the right people to do it.

And I've had a lot of Porsches.

My point was you put too much emphasis in what the seller told you and didn't do basic checks - if you are from an era different to me...ie much older, then experience tells you you should know better by now....but we all learn somewhere.

I hope you enjoy the car...just check all the lame things before you get your next one[][]

 

[jason]

ORIGINAL: peanut


The whinge was obviously a tongue in cheek moan and the majority of you saw that and went along. One or two members took the opportunity to show their usual opinionated arragance but hey ho you expect that. `Poster beware ' lol hee hee

Sorry missed this one when i posted above.

This post is the kind of crap that does make you end up in a '944 owners are seen different' camp. No one was being arrogant. People were trying to point out that maybe your 'BIG WHINGE' could have been avoided and maybe it's not that big a whinge really and hey just try and enjoy the car, life is too short.

It's your own fault for buying a crappy front engined under powered ugly rust bucket. Thats arrogant. []





.....but as I had a 944 for my daily driver for the last year I'd never say that would I? []

 

[Diver944]

......and feel the lurrrrrrve

Now we can get back to the normal whinge of how to spell sill (or cill) []