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daro911

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January 5th Issue of Auto Express claims Watchdog has discovered Porsche could be forced to recall the Boxster "S" becuase of rusty brake discs [:eek:]


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Very interesting, i will be watching this closely as I too was give the same speel at service time...
 
this is new on me. I cant recall complaints on this - Top Bear, what is your story? Did your disks require to be replaced?

"Not enough airflow to dry disks"? Very strange.

More likely the disk material is faulty.
 
My uncle has a 52 plate Boxster S with low mileage which he bought from an OPC about 15 months ago. He was just told at the last service that the inside of the discs were corroded and that will be ÂŁ1000 please for a new set.

The technician said it was probably because when he cleaned the car before putting it back in the garage it was still wet. However this is not the case as my uncle always takes the car for a quick spin to dry it off before he puts it back to bed.
The technician then didn't know what to say, except you will need new discs soon and that will be ÂŁ1000.

I have emailed him the above so when he gets back from holiday he can get in touch with Watchdog.

Kevin
 
More likely the disk material is faulty.

Plus probably lack of use and the fact that Poole is at the seaside!

and

1k for new disk and pads? I replaced my own front disk and pads (no previous experience whatsoever, just used help from this forum), parts from Eurocarparts.com, and it cost me around ÂŁ110 and took 1.5 hours total.

It's a shame they aren't chasing the real story.
JCB..

 
inside of the discs were corroded and that will be ÂŁ1000 please for a new set.

This is real pain since you cannot easily inspect the inside of the disk
 
How does the rusty inside of a disk affect the friction braking surfaces ? (assuming that they are talking about the vent in the middle and not the inboard surface) if so then id say any vented disk on any car should be recalled, they are all rusty.

Chunks missing from them !
Are they made of Cheese ?
 
ORIGINAL: NicD

this is new on me. I cant recall complaints on this - Top Bear, what is your story? Did your disks require to be replaced?
It stemmed from this post
When I put my 03 S in for its first service with just 8K miles on the clock I was told by the service mgr that the discs were both scorched (on the front) and corroded (on the rear) and that they recommend all the discs and pads be replaced as they were in a 'compromised' condition. Granted the car had been dropped off the day after a track day:rolleyes:, however after further intrusive discussions with the Serv Mgr, he then backed down to say that all the disks would be ok for a another few thousand miles, and that he recommended I have them changed now as it would be another 12K miles before the car would be 'in again'.
I then argued the toss about the durability (are rather lack of) of the rear disks regarding the corrosion, to be told that this happened because the car is left sitting for the most of the week and only driven and weekends.

So my thoughts on the Boxster's brakes were that your damned if you do use them, and damned if your don't.[&:]
 
I suppose there is some merrit in their statement about them being corroded due to lack of use. I have experienced a similar discussion with a service dep't, but they were a little lost as to what to say when I explained to them that the car gets used everyday and it's never left for any lengthy periods without use.

So it probably isn't an uncommon money spinner, although this was BMW.
 

ORIGINAL: thboxster

I suppose there is some merrit in their statement about them being corroded due to lack of use. I have experienced a similar discussion with a service dep't, but they were a little lost as to what to say when I explained to them that the car gets used everyday and it's never left for any lengthy periods without use.

So it probably isn't an uncommon money spinner, although this was BMW.

Yeah and in my case a 'long period' was from Sunday night to Thursday night every week, not exactly what you would call a car 'holiday'.

What gets me is their ridiculous attitude that 'we make quality, durable high-performance components, but if you dont use it everyday, then it will fall-apart and you will need to replace it within 12months'........eh!!??
 
Well my two S's have been both used on track days and left for long periods, with no problems so far, so thats why I wondered if a particular batch of bad disk rotors.
In your case , sounds like an over zealous technician.
 
Ah,

But unless I'm missing something, yours are left in a covered area Nic, some have to park outside.

Mine is garaged, and so far the discs have been ok (30,000 miles in 3 1/2 years, but still long periods of inactivity)

I have taken to taking the car for a quick dry of the brakes after washing, but only in the last year or so...
 
Well I can see how that might be happen, as the car would be exposed to damp conditions kept outside all the time (as mine is now).

However upto the point of this dispute the car was garaged during the week and only left outside over the weekend.
 
I see this complaint often on the UK boards, but not so much on the US boards. The only rust I have seen is on the surface of the disc like in my picture, and it goes away when you step on the brakes. This is condisered normal for a cast iron rotor. Never seen a disc that was pitted or compromised or with chunks of metal missing - but I live in California. Anyone have a picture of a damaged disc.

I have seen Cadmium discs on ebay and it is said they do not rust. Maybe Porsche should try them.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7938198593&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT
 
It's a shame Porsche hav'nt developed a high tech brake material they could sell us. Like err, ceramic!!!! Ahh.
 
I had a Boxster S, used regularly and parked in an under ground car park. My brakes had rust on the inside and the service manager at an OPC told me change the brakes. I then spoke to a service engineer I am friendly with and he told me don't worry, they all do that.

Definitely something not right - more annoying is that cars I have had that cost less than 1/10 th of the price, have been used twice as hard and cared for far less have had no problems like this. Not what I would expect from a Porsche.
 
Do the older 911's have this problem because I would have thought that those cars are used less frequently than the Boxsters and would therefore be prone to the same problems
 
Both of my Boxsters were left outside, uncovered, often left standing for 2 weeks or more. Whilst the outside of the discs would should show rust staining & leaving the handbrake on was a bad idea corrosion was never a serious problem.
 

ORIGINAL: Cary Blackburn

Do the older 911's have this problem ...

993 models have exactly the same problem. Common enough that any independent will tell you they see lots of these on the 993.
 

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