Watchdog Is On The Case

[38F3E1]

BTW my understanding is that is has nothing to do wth whether the car is kept inside or out, put away wet etc. It's a result of the brake design and the materials used. Doesn't happen on higher mileage cars 'cause they wear the disks out at a fast enough rate anyway.

I am not saying the design is faulty because I have always found Porsche brake performance to be excellent, but that to achieve this performance certain materials have been chosen for optimum friction characteristics that then exhibit certain corrosion and wear characteristics.

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: daro911

January 5th Issue of Auto Express claims Watchdog has discovered Porsche could be forced to recall the Boxster "S" because of rusty brake discs []

January 27th Issue the rust is spreading []

 

[JCB..]

And then there were two!

And how far from the sea is Fareham? [&:]

They must really be short of column inches - why aren't they chasing the RMS issue?????????????????????????

JCB..

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: JCB..

And then there were two!

And how far from the sea is Fareham? [&:]

JCB..

[8D]So do all other manufacturers cars that live near the sea-side have this problem too

 

[JCB..]

So do all other manufacturers cars that live near the sea-side have this problem too

I've no idea!

I do know that as Assistant and Register Sec for the best part of 3 years "rusty disk brakes" is as popular a gripe as "Why don't they make a Boxster with 3 seats"!

(I kid you not!)[&:][&:]

JCB..

 

[pae]

I must admit I thought all manufacturers had a problem with surface rust on a disk thats been wet. Drive in to work on a wet morning, have a look around the car park when you go home in the evening. Unless we're talking about something different it would never have occured to me that this is a problem. All my cars (various manufacturers and vintages) do this.

Phil

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: pae

I must admit I thought all manufacturers had a problem with surface rust on a disk thats been wet. Drive in to work on a wet morning, have a look around the car park when you go home in the evening. Unless we're talking about something different it would never have occured to me that this is a problem. All my cars (various manufacturers and vintages) do this.

Phil

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Phil I agree with your observations refs other cars and rusty looking discs but the OPC wanted to replace the discs on these cars so one must assume there is a technical or safety issue here also as they site warped, distorted and very rusty []

 

[Carl.Young]

This was my understanding too. I had a Fiat Coupe Turbo a few years back which had big brembos as standard. They would rust & the handbrake seize on as soon as the weather got remotely damp. Once, the handbrake seized so badly the only way I could get out of the garage was put the car in reverse, pile the revs on, and dump the clutch (with the garage doors open of course [&:]). As you can imagine with that sort of treatment the discs gave up pretty quickly, and cost a cool £800 to replace. I sharp learned to make sure I dried the brakes and to leave the handbrake off if the car was left for any length of time.

 

[TopBear]

JCB,
You need to make the distinction between brakes discs rusting on the outer surface and brake discs which are corroding from the inside out.

When you car has done 8K miles and is less than a year old, and the OPC are recommending that you replace the discs on the back as they are corroding, thats a different scenario from 'surface rusting' after you leave the car for a day or so.

Perhaps Im asking too much of this prestige manufacturer to reasonably expect that my discs will last more than a year before they suggest they should be replaced?

 

[Rodney Naghar]

If you need them, I wouldn't bother paying the £800-1k the OPC's are charging... try
www.Eurocarparts.com, as I did in the summer, (no affiliation) and I used this site to help me do it (first bit of work I've ever done to any car)
http://www.bombaydigital.com/boxster/projects/brakes/change_pads/
http://www.bombaydigital.com/boxster/projects/brakes/change_rotors/

e.g
Front Disks £33.75x2
Rear Disks £32.75x2
Front pads £39.90
Rear Pads £38.50
Total - £211.40+delivery (price for MY'04 2.7)

Took me 1.5 hours for front disks and pads (1hour for the first, 30mins for the second)

 

[JCB..]

You need to make the distinction between brakes discs rusting on the outer surface and brake discs which are corroding from the inside out.

Topbear

I'm fully aware of the history of this and it's not me bringing up "rusty discs in car parks on a wet afternoon".

In terms of numbers of vehicles affected this is just a drop in the ocean and IMHO Watchdog should be chasing the RMS issue and the way that a good number have people have been left in the lurch with a slipped sleeve engine.

I appreciate that if it were my car I would be a little more passionate but you can actually replace all 4 discs on a Boxster for less than the cost of an RMS replacement and, unless you change you car every five minutes, sooner or later you are going to need to to this.

JCB..

 

[kitchens]

As posted in this topic ..993 suffer the same way Have just taken the car our after it has been in the garage for about 6weeks ..siezed.. had to give it a bit off welly to free them no great signs of rust on the face but a bit more on the inside I have had the discs replaced before under guarantee as they warped some thing to do with track days ! I insisted and where replaced foc .Then some 6months later the same again this time no track days where involved,would only skim them as said it was due to putting the car away wet into a garage , strange thing it was only on the inside that was effected and was told to brake dry before putting it in a garage .My SKODA can sit out in all weathers and there is no rust shown anywhere strange

Brian

 

[Guest]

For info. EVO reported on this on the long termer they were running. I have had the same thing on an Integra Type R, was warned by the dealer that the disks would only be good for another couple of thousand, and there was no point in fitting pads as they were too far gone only to find that 12K later the car still stopped just fine. Cracks are one thing, surface corrosion is another. I am very tempted to get the insides blasted, maybe with husks as it seems to me, as an engineer, service depts dont know what they are talking about, there's a change?[8|]

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: daro911

January 5th Issue of Auto Express claims Watchdog has discovered Porsche could be forced to recall the Boxster "S" becuase of rusty brake discs []

Auto Express 8-14th June 2005 has an update:-

The investigation into rusty Porsche Boxster "S" brake discs is still on going. But the Vehicle and Operator Services Agency (VOSA) says IF tests show they're safe, the maker won't issue a recall. VOSA's head of vehicle safety, Jeffrey Sweeting, said:

"We tested some badly corroded discs and they still performed well"