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dvenman

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In typically English fashion, I have to talk about the weather ! As winter approaches, not only do I need to keep warm in the car (particularly my hands) but also I need to consider if winter tyres are worth fitting.

What do the other Boxster owners out there do ? I'm quite happy to have the top down till it gets to about freezing as long as the rest of me is warm - what do you do ? Any recommendations for gloves which keep hands warm but allow sensitivity requisite with a sports car ?

And winter tyres - what do you shoe your steed in ?
 
driving gloves obviously [:D]

going in for its winter wheels and pirelli sotto zeros end of the month
i wouldnt be without them-makes a big difference when really cold
 
Dear Dvenman,

Nearly always have the top down, exceptions are high winds and blizzards above 1000 m and less than 30 mph! More seriously, top down motoring is very comfortable under most conditions in a 981. We find we only need drive top up when its very windy or in slow moving traffic in the rain or snow - above about 30 mph it just goes over the top.

Took delivery last January with Continental winter tyres fitted to standard 19" S wheels. Good traction under all conditions (cold, wet, snow & ice) - most will find them very good in the cold wet conditions that prevail in most of the UK. Living where we do, you can travel from temperate maritime to sub-arctic conditions in less than a 1 h drive. For us they are essential and we have them on all our vehicles from about the end of October to the end of March.
Note added- We have the excellent PTV with LSD option and in combination with the winter tyres we remain largely spin free but without the loss of traction you get when PSM acts alone. Hill-climbing ability is excellent. Overall the main limitation is the depth of the fresh snow, ca 8".

Winter wheels & tyres are changed over free for their lifetime by Porsche garage. Ran them well into April this year since we enjoyed late snows and low temps with the late onset of Spring. Only other essential was winter screen wash - recommend LIDL German proprietary 5 L winter wash additive (buy early it soon sells out).

The heated seats are very good but we only use them mostly on their lowest setting at the start of the journey, they might come on again as the conditions get colder but when its really cold we prefer to adjust our clothing. The point is, whilst they are very desirable, they are not essential for top down motoring (ie heated seats).

For headgear I usually wear the modern, universally available, ''Polartec fabric head comforts', my wife like the 'Buffs' tubes worn in the balaclava style. This winter I'll be trying out a snug fitting Russian style shooters hat with ear flaps. Either way it's essential that the headgear is comfortable, cosy, stays on (it's more blustery in the cooler months) and can be dynamically adjusted to cover your ears. Sartorial elegance is desirable but not essential!

Windproof fleece/fleece lined coats are essential. I use a Schoffel Rutland Polartec fleece (Gortex windstopper lining) when its very cold and a 'Rohan Kombi' jacket when it's just above freezing. My wife mostly wears a 'Musto Performance Snug' and we both vary the sub-layers with the full or partially zipped Rohan microgrid stowaway tops. Comfort fit is essential. Don't forget the winter trousers, the chino-style Rohan winter route trousers for men (zip free rear pockets - no seat damage) and for ladies the Rohan striders are good when its very cold. Passengers can also benefit from a some traditional upper leg protection in the form of a wide fleecy scarf draped over their thighs when the temperatures really drop (the point of this is that it can be easily adjusted to suit the circumstances ie dynamic layering). For cosy feet I prefer 'Scarpa' approach lace up climbing shoes. They are not the commonly available boot-like trainers but are lightweight, narrow and with thin grippy soles and will accommodate lightweight merino wool socks of the 'Smartwool' variety without loss of foot sensitivity (look in specialist climbing outlets under approach shoes).

Finally gloves! I use Polartec gloves (currently good value Black Diamond) of different weights depending on the windchill (weight depends on the 'fleeciness' of the lining). The gloves are smooth with a snug fit, not bulky and sometimes referred to as lining gloves in the specialist outlets. It is essential that they either have leather lined palms or have the more modern sticky artificial surface treatments, either way they help you grip the wheel! Options are the electro-conductive treatments of the fingertips so that you can operate touch sensitive screens etc. My wife has the more modern (and expensive) Mountain Equipment lightweight variants with silvered thumb and finger tips with a natty mountain profile sticky motive that form the grippy surfaces on the palm and finger faces. She finds them excellent under all conditions.

hope that helps

FBR
 

ORIGINAL: gouldian

Strike a light - Sounds expensive living up north, only wear a T shirt (M&S) down south!


i was going to say-sounds like he is in the friggin arctic[:D]
 
Dear Gouldian

>Strike a light - Sounds expensive living up north, only wear a T shirt (M&S) down south!

Think of the savings by not buying the coupe derivative. Sleety snow & high winds forced top up in Braemar yesterday.

For fiscally challenged M&S wearers try the code ST15 for 15% off for the more cosy apparel from R****n (till 20 Oct).


FBR

PS to Jeff - There's nothing better than a top-down drive on a crisp January day, with clear blue skies, sub-zero temperatures, empty roads and magnificent scenery. The exercise in the middle bit is a bonus. Busy day if you meet more than couple of folk on the hill.
 

Thankfully, I can drive my Cayman in short sleeves and without wearing a balaclava even in sub-zero temperatures..!

Jeff (Southern softy)
 
I bought some winter rear tyres last winter but never go around to fitting them as I was struggling to get the front, are winters on the rears going to provide any improvement, my thoughts are that they would as Boxster are rear wheel drive?
 
ORIGINAL: Tan

I bought some winter rear tyres last winter but never go around to fitting them as I was struggling to get the front, are winters on the rears going to provide any improvement, my thoughts are that they would as Boxster are rear wheel drive?

http://spiritbodysoul.com/winter-tyres/
For optimum safety you need to fit four winter tyres "" see http://www.michelin.co.uk/connected/tyres/learn-share/care-guide/cold-weather-tips. This provides optimum grip on corners and braking stability and efficiency. However, if you drive carefully, you only wish to be improve traction to drive up hills and you have a front wheel drive car, you could save money in the short term by fitting two winter tyres on the front wheels. The cost of this is minimal. Although this can be dangerous in some circumstances, even this is far more effective and safer than using summer tyres in winter.
 
Gouldian
If they only knew the road from Blaigowrie to Braemar to Deeside, the magnificent views , the old Devils elbow, the run down into Braemar itself is like a Mini Mille Miglia, there is nothing like it with your eyes streaming with the cold and the tops of your ears brittle and crisp, but the day that the sun has put heat into this Nirvana of countryside and the temperatue is above 20 degrees , then these cold days are all worh the effort too.
[:)]
 
Dear Hamish

Do you mean this Devil's Elbow? It's a tricky run from here to Braemar ;)

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Nice place for lunch, only 7.5 degrees today, ideal for top down!

regards

FBR
 
Here's another picture of whats left the old Devils elbow as it is today.

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It's just off the newer road section of the A93 and just South of the Glenshee Ski Centre. It's ideal for Tee shirts from anytime from about now till the start of April (if you're lucky).

Back on topic it's probably the last time I'll be up there on the 20" summer tyres - booked in for free changeover at the beginning of Nov.

best wishes

FBR

PS if you're coming to visit over the winter, check this link for Tee shirt clearance ;) http://www.aberdeenshire.gov.uk/webcams/braemar.asp

Sorry GMT has not been updated on the camera, the additional 30 mins is for "Braemar time" - a little like Sandringham time but further North!

PPS the BST - GMT now updated, the gracetime has been maintained! Thanks to Flat6 for demonstrating the display of pictures.

 
Brilliant Pictures car looks awesome there love the wheels
brings back many memories the old elbow and thats the very one !!! didnt realise you could still get onto it.
hope to catch up soon on these roads
[:)][:)][:)][:)]
 
[:)]FBR
how do you embed your pictures i the post
and what is the max size , if you see a white Turbo S around Blairgowrie stop me [:)]
 
Dear Hamish,

To get to the old hairpin, if you're coming from the South, look for an opening in the safety fence in the right hand side of the A93, about one third of a mile after the last official Parking stop, in Perthshire, also on the right. It has a section of drop-kerb so entry is easy. OS map ref NO 141 762. Glad you like the wheels, they hold that appearance most of the time, the shiny faces stay shiny and the body of the dark grey body of the wheel doesn't show the dust. Cars not been washed since last week and gets used most days. In 7000 miles I've only polished it once (Werskstat Acrylic system).

Bringing the message back on topic here's a picture of a VIP, modelling suitable cold weather headgear, whist pinching the car for the day...

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To embed a picture, click on the greyed-out "Click here to upload" at the bottom left of the message composition window. This opens a dialog box that indicates 200KB Max file size. Follow instruction to get file on server. Tick embed picture in post and submit post. Standard click-able thumb of you image appears in post. Look at the HTTP address of image and copy this address. Edit your original post to re-embed the image in your post. This is achieved by pasting the image's HTTP address between the image tags. The image tags are accessed from the editing buttons at the top of the message window. You can tidy up the image thumb by removing the original tags that you will find embedded at the bottom of the message. You can also arrange the text around image taqs to suit your own style.

On the question of size, from within Photoshop you can crop your original to suit and them use the "Save For Web" function. This allows you to set the quality and final dimensions of the image to give you a file size (shown dynamically within the Save For Web window) to just below 200KB.

For an image of Autumn on Deeside (Linn of Dee) you should be able to do this.

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Sorry it's so long winded - but it seems to work. If anybody knows any better please fell free to correct me, or ask for clarification!

Hope this helps

FBR
 
Dear Dvenman

Hope you found the tips useful. It's now getting cold enough for the local Deeside NitWits knitting bee to start with woolly coats for the stags. This one's waiting for the bus and keeping warm in "Taste", a local coffee shop next to the Braemar show ground. Or maybe it's got an eye on that small hind hanging around on the roundabout outside?

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It's hard work out there for Stags at this time of the year. They are roaring all day to keep the opposition at bay. It must get a bit like the Spyder thread trying to stay at the top of the list ;).


FBR

PS It's been more than 10 minutes, maybe Darwin was right after all?
 
Just sneaked over the Lecht yesterday and look at it now...

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M&S nether garments and winter tyres are now essential.
 

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