What counts as "low mileage" now?

[pse_SC]

I much prefer to be driving it on the road

Precisely[][][] Oh, and I wouldn't have bought a lower mileage - would've been silly money + afraid to touch it. Nice if you have the luxury of having a "˜fleet'.

 

[jdpef356]

Just took a look at PH and the first three 993 for sale are all under 40K []


http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/list.asp?s=555

 

[dparslow]

ORIGINAL: Gordon Attar

I wasnt hung up about the mileage just expressing my view based on whats been out in the market this summer and how people use the cars and i.e cars that stay indoors all winter and basically arent used as daily drivers/week end cars and tend to be on the very low mileage classic car policies.

I used 70k based on the following :

- quite a few cars about in the 70-99k bracket, mainly targas and cabs
- most have these cars tend to have done 50k in the first 3 to 5 years and then gone to week end use
- If its a 94/95 reg thats 17 years old and an average of just over 4k pa or 80 miles per week.
- If its 97 reg its 14 years old and therefore 5k pa or 100 miles per week.


both of these mileages qualify for classic car policies

Ultra low mileage i.e. 3k pa and less cars i.e. sub 50k seem to be supported with big annual bills for £1500 to £2500 plus due to the low usage theres usually a clutch, brake discs(corroded thro lack of use), electrical issues etc Also to a certain extent I am not to impressed with seeing some of the so called specialists taking advantage of these "pristine cars" and then only doing 12k services for years on end!!

The point I was making is that there are low mileage cars out there that haven't been maintained properly as some people only seem to consider the mileage when determining whether a service is due, not when it was last serviced and which of the three levels of service it had last and which it now needs. I'll be willing to bet that there are 993s out there that have never had a 48,000 mile service carried out on them simply because their mileage has not reached that level yet.

I don`t totally agree with some of the earlier comments, low mileage vehicles will not experience the same amount of wear on components, therefore, they do not need to have things replaced as frequently. Even service items, if filters and spark plugs are recomended at 12k or 24k, they do not need doing every year if you only do 3k per annum. There is nothing wrong in doing air filters, cabin filters and spark plugs less frequently. Filters and spark plugs are required due to mileage more than the time element. The later Porsche vehicles only have a service every two years or 20k miles, if you use a high spec oil there is no reason why you can`t change it every other year if you only do 3k or less per annum.

My own 993 averages about 3k a year mainly summer and dry winter use, the oil gets changed every year and the car is thoroughly checked over every year and anything that is required gets done. At 37k miles, apart from tyres, brakes, minor items and service items, it has never needed anything. It is a very well maintained car, but it just has not required anything other than routine servicing as yet.

However, the 968 at 137k and the daily driver is aways having worn parts replaced these days!

 

[Gordon Attar]

DAve

Your car sounds pristine,

I would still say that you still need to have regular service stamps in the service book to maintain its best value i.e. a £60k (37k doing 3k pa) 993TT with an annual £245 +v service stamped in its book will worth £3- 5k more than one with a stamps every 2/3 years i.e. services done on mileage points and no £24k say for 5/6 years!

The cost of not doing the service annually(18 month at a stretch) has a bigger cost in the loss in the residual value of the car, it annoys me constantly.
The worst one I saw this year was a Cab that had done 7000 miles in the last 6 years and hadnt had a service as it hadnt done 12k!, he had his MOT's to back up the mileage. The car was finally sold for nearly £4k less than its "serviced value"

 

[clyde]

ORIGINAL: jdpef356



Just took a look at PH and the first three 993 for sale are all under 40K []


http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/list.asp?s=555

Looks like a 60 - 70 k car is still a "low average mileage" car rather than a "low mileage" car then?

 

[Gordon Attar]

I think this 1995 993 Tip with 1027 miles counts as low mileage available for £32000

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1995-PORSCHE-911-CARRERA-AUTO-BLUE-/220851656083?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item336bc8d593#ht_500wt_1287

 

[clyde]

ORIGINAL: Gordon Attar



I think this 1995 993 Tip with 1027 miles counts as low mileage available for £32000

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1995-PORSCHE-911-CARRERA-AUTO-BLUE-/220851656083?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item336bc8d593#ht_500wt_1287

Two hundred miles per owner, I know tips aren't as good to drive as manuals but come on .... I wonder how many services it's had []

 

[hanhams81]

I am not sure a fixation with low miles is necessarily wise. I agree with comments that standing unused is as destructive as neglect sometimes. Keep the wheels moving is my moto, preferrably on sunny days. There are enough even in winter to give the old girls good runs. I would prefer a well maintained medium to high miler than a 30,000 to 40,000 garage queen. It will look nice and be subject to greater depreciation and its insides may be none too healthy. Acid and guts work best in humans not engines. Belts, cables and brake fluid, decay whilst doing nothing as evaporation makes for brittleness (or water is absorbed in the case of brake fluid lowering the vapour point). Most manufacturers these days are keen to stress time is as significant a killer as distance. So replacement costs may not be lower. Still you knew all that anyway. But it makes mileage a little less important in the mix of things.
Happy motoring
Hanhams81

 

[Mark Elder]

Wow! - pose a question about 993 mileage, go away for a week, and return to find 2 pages of discussion! Anyway - driving my 993 is a MUCH more rewarding experience than I could ever buy from anything theoretically to be saved in depreciation from miles not done!

I find the mileage on that ebay car really tough to believe!

 

[sebrussellsmith]

I guess 120,000 miles is not classed as low mileage then!!!

 

[A Ward]

Wow! - pose a question about 993 mileage, go away for a week, and return to find 2 pages of discussion!

You should post a question about the benefits of removing the engine undertray next time - see how many pages you get from that little chestnut!! []

 

[Gordon Attar]

ORIGINAL: Mark Elder

Wow! - pose a question about 993 mileage, go away for a week, and return to find 2 pages of discussion! Anyway - driving my 993 is a MUCH more rewarding experience than I could ever buy from anything theoretically to be saved in depreciation from miles not done!

I find the mileage on that ebay car really tough to believe!

When are you next away for a week, perhaps we can get this register more active.

 

[pse_SC]

I think this 1995 993 Tip with 1027 miles counts as low mileage available for £32000

Gordon, if that car on ebay has done just 1027 miles, then I'm a Lithuanian lap dancer with exceptionally large assets[8|]

 

[gpm993]

ORIGINAL: pse_SC

I think this 1995 993 Tip with 1027 miles counts as low mileage available for £32000

Gordon, if that car on ebay has done just 1027 miles, then I'm a Lithuanian lap dancer with exceptionally large assets[8|]

Paul,

Can we have some pics!!!!! ................. Please []


Graham

993 C4S

 

[pse_SC]

It hasn't, and I'm not[]

 

[JB 3.2]

Paul

Some new talents you have picked up following your move to cosmopolitan Bedford....

 

[mollytherocker]

Hi All

I'm new here so Hello!

Mine has 98k on it which is circa 6k per year so I reckon thats low mileage.[]

Far from dreading the coming 100k psychological 'barrier', it is cause for celebration.

On a final note, beware mega low mileage cars, they are not always what they seem....

MTR