Whats with LM5P Baltic Blue ?

[peanut]

I ordered up a can of aerosol spray paint to the code printed on the white paper label in the boot of my 89 944S2 but the colour that arrived was nothing like the Baltic Blue metalic colour of my car. full code Porsche Baltic Blue Metallic 37B/C7/LN5P/LM5P

I took the code to Halfords as they promised that they could mix up the correct Porsche 89 944S2 LM5P code paint . Once mixed it was clear that the paint colour was completely wrong far too dark . The code that came up on Halfords system was Baltic Blue / tautenblumen ? no idea what the added german description is for.

I am reluctant to order up paint from another supplier as they are over £20 a pop and its getting expensive and very frustrating.
Can anyone recommend a paint supplier that they have personally bought Baltic Blue aerosol paint from please.

 

[PAUL RUDDY]

Sorry , can't help with Baltic but I have had a nightmare getting an aerosol mixed for mine.

Guards Red, India Red , INDISCHROT

The code is LM3A, but not on the label in my boot, see photo below ?

Halfords can't mix it for some reason, I don't think they knew why but they tried their best to explain, I lost interest.

The other only local supplier was happy to mix it but couldn't do semi-gloss and had no aerosol tins in stock to put it in.

The price of Internet aerosols + postage !!

Anyway I finally ordered some and it arrives tomorrow, I used LM3A as opposed to L3MA as the 'INDISCHROT' sticker in the engine bay states M3A

Its only to touch in small areas of underseal that only cats eyes will ever see hence semi gloss....I know I'm sad

 

[blade7]

I bought the correct code touch up kit from Audi for my A4, colour didn't match.

 

[robwright]

Sorry , can't help with Baltic but I have had a nightmare getting an aerosol mixed for mine.

Guards Red, India Red , INDISCHROT

The code is LM3A, but not on the label in my boot, see photo below ?

Halfords can't mix it for some reason, I don't think they knew why but they tried their best to explain, I lost interest.

The other only local supplier was happy to mix it but couldn't do semi-gloss and had no aerosol tins in stock to put it in.

The price of Internet aerosols + postage !!

Anyway I finally ordered some and it arrives tomorrow, I used LM3A as opposed to L3MA as the 'INDISCHROT' sticker in the engine bay states M3A

Its only to touch in small areas of underseal that only cats eyes will ever see hence semi gloss....I know I'm sad

Because they say it has lead in it. Computer says no.

 

[fastporsche]

the l3ma on the label in the boot is a vw number and after having the same trouble as you have mines turkish blue i found a place in warrington cheshire that has lechller paint system my vw number 1s lm5m if i can remember he traced my number to 38i and is a perfect match if there is a lechler system in your area use this not max meyer if i can find the phone number for my paint shop i will get back to you today

 

[fastporsche]

you could try m5p cut the l off

 

[wolfie308]

I was recently unlucky to have my elderly neighbour reverse into my car causing this......

I had the repair done by a local garage I've used for many years which incidentally cost £325 (they did a full re-spray on my red S.2). Apparently they blew in the repair on the lower wing section only and re lacquered the complete wing. Just took this...ignore the dirt, I'm going down the hand car wash later...

I'm really pleased with the match which may have been easier since the car had a full glass out re-spray about 10 years ago and has always been garaged since when not in use. If it's of any help, I'll call the garage and ask which supplier they use.

 

[vitesse]

I use a paint place called -Autopaint-in Liverpool-necessary to take the car & they mix the paint in a special rear room,then come out & check against the car -if necessary slightly altering the formulation to get a good match.Even they use different paint manufacturers formulations for the same colour code to get it right,You can have it in an aerosol but I always have liquid paint -usually 1/2 litre & use an Revell artists spray for touch up jobs including 1 coat lacquers.
The container is a tiny glass bottle & the thread can be matched with similar small tablet containers so I mix paint in various containers until I get it correctly thinned & mixed paint can then be stored until needed again.

Less waste compared to my other small gravity fed guns.the Revell gun came with a small adapter which fits to my compressor.Machine mart do a similar version for around £16 if I remember.

 

[944Scott]

Welcome to my world of pain! All last year I have been fighting to get my paint rectified after the last idiot who painted mine sprayed it straight out of the tin without bothering to try and match it, that said though I took part of the rear lower valance to another paint shop to spray at the same time and they matched it perfectly. I'm now on my third pay out from the insurers (cash settlement this time) and I'm yet to take it somewhere to get it re painted for the fear of another bad job, it's really dented my enthusiasm for the car last year to the point where I'm struggling to get enthused to work on it.

Search for a paint supplier who will make you a rattle can and have a photospectrometer, it a device they will use to analyse your paint for the best match possible.

 

[peanut]

crikey ! .... what a can of worms I seem to have opened up .[]

The lechler tip is a good one thanks. I've used a company for aerosol Lechler paint for my classic Lambretta so i'll see if they can match the code.

oddly enough I believe I have two different paint codes . One is LN5P and the other is LM5P ? I'm sure I remember there are 2x paint labels on the car somewhere. i'll check tomorrow.

About 8 years ago someone drove into the back of me and a local body shop specialist matched the paint very well in water based paint for a new rear bumper. They gave me a small plastic pot with some spare paint in but its dried up over the years ...just my luck. Mine was the last job they did before folding

I read on the forum somewhere that there is a Rover N90 ? paint that is a reasonable match but Hafords do not sell it .

We used to have Taylors Paint outlet in Yeovil and the guy in there would happily spend hours trying to match paint for you but thats gone now too.

All these little specialist back street specialist Companies have gone to the wall and its getting harder all the time to get jobs done.

I had a thimble sized touch up pot delivered today I might try see if I can find the Company that mixed it up .

Thanks all for responding and for your advice. Its good to know I'm not alone in this .

 

[fastporsche]

hi its dave by the way i said that i would get back to you with the adress of the paint supplier in warrington cheshire its direct auto supplies unit 12 hardy streetwarrington cheshire 01925 418665 wa2 7hg

 

[Diver944]

Spraying a small area in a light metallic colour from a £20 aerosol simply will not match the colour that was applied 25 years ago in a multi million pound factory based spray shop using a high quality gun at high pressure. You will need to spray a much larger area than you imagine, gradually blending out the fresh paint with thinner and thinner coats so that you cannot see the obvious colour difference.

The paint mixing system that I use does not cover older cars like ours but most car colours have several (sometimes dozens) of different shade variants, whereas shop bought premixed paint is normally the original variant when that colour was first designed. Your car may not be sprayed in the original variant, hence the need to blend the paint out over a larger area.

Scott's advice regarding a photospectrometer is a good one, but in a light metallic you still won't be able to do a small patch without seeing the edges of it []

 

[blade7]

Search for a paint supplier who will make you a rattle can and have a photospectrometer, it a device they will use to analyse your paint for the best match possible.

There's a paint supplier nr Northampton that has that setup I think. They wanted the car or a panel left with them for a couple of days and it was £35 just to match the paint. Even then they wouldn't guarantee a perfect match on Alpine White.

 

[PAUL RUDDY]

Got my LM3A "Indischrot" aerosols yesterday, I know it's not on an exterior surface but the match is very good as is the reduced gloss level , 60% , takes the 'too shiny' look off it under the arches.

cheers, Paul

 

[944Scott]

Finding good body shops seems to be much harder these days. When the car was first painted after my excursion it went to the guy I had used for the last 10 years (he had only just painted the bumper the week before it happened) After a catalogue of errors during the repair the car went into hibernation for the winter, one thing I had no qualm with was the quality of his paint match however opening the garage in January last year revealed micro blisters in the paint. The whole lot had to be stripped off and then the next numpty painted it a different colour, this brings me up to date where I'm gearing up for a front end respray where it will be blended on both doors and up the A pillars, I'm anxious to say the least, third time lucky eh!

 

[peanut]

thanks Dave much appreciated. Did you actually buy some Baltic blue from them ? or did they paint your car .
I spent 2x hours today ringing round paint factors and none of them could find the correct paint from the code I provided.
Luckily I found Yeovil Finishes local to me who claim they can match the paint from the fuel filla cap. Might give them a try as its on;t £9.99 per 400ml can

 

[peanut]

sounds like a nightmare Scott. I think I'd be tempted to do a full respray but thats a huge amount of preparation and expense.
Luckily I'm only looking to paint my sills and because they are at a different angle to the rest of the car it would be nigh on impossible to tell a slight mismatch. Baltic blue is one of those colours that change in hue constantly as you move around the car and the light changes .

 

[Mike_Pollock]

LM3Y is my code - Velvet Red - You can forget the "L", so I have been told by several traders.
My car still has a little original paint, but most panels have been painted at some stage and the result is that is all sorts of red!
A car trade place mixed 2 cans for me, totally wrong for any bit of it.
Halfords however did a very good job I think, but have now got rid of their paint stations in my local stores........
Not sure how much the blues fade compared to the reds but I'm sure that 25 year old paint will have faded, making a touch up extremely difficult....

 

[peanut]

yes touching up any panel would be difficult especially with a 2pk paint but luckily for me I am not touching up anything . I'm spraying a complete panel (sill) so its not an issue as every single panel on a Baltic Blue car always looks different in bright light

 

[Diver944]

As it is just the textured sill you should be fine with something close. You are right that the angle and the textured finish will help disguise any mismatch. It sounds like Yeovil Finishes will scan your filler and mix from the result - happy days []