Why all the GTS for sale?
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Looks like a nerve has been touched about centre locks - I do occasionally track the car (4000plus miles to first scheduled replacement component I recall the letter says- now that's a fair few laps!)
and yes the centre locks may be unnecessary for the road but he'll they look great and I therefore I do not care one jot[8D]
And yes a GT3 is a more focused machine and when my kids don't fit in the back seats of the GTS any more - perhaps perhaps
And if I win the lottery perhaps a turbo s - but for now !,,,,[
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and yes the centre locks may be unnecessary for the road but he'll they look great and I therefore I do not care one jot[8D]
And yes a GT3 is a more focused machine and when my kids don't fit in the back seats of the GTS any more - perhaps perhaps
And if I win the lottery perhaps a turbo s - but for now !,,,,[
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m33ufo
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ORIGINAL: Clewsey
BTW GTS models are renowned for holding a better price as they are the last in the line-ups. Just look at 928 GTS models etc etc. Same as an M3 CS for example.
I guess it won't be a surprise to hear I that don't agree with you on centre locks either [
It'd be a boring world if everyone agreed with one another but have you driven a GTS?
Actually, the M3 CS never held any appeal for me at all. Except for the fact that it looked a little like a CSL because of its CSL'esq wheels it was a pretty much a bog standard M3. I have owned a couple of M3 CSL's though and they remain in my eyes one of the finest cars BMW have ever made. The E90 M3 I purchased to replace my last CSL in 2008 was a real disappointment. A really good daily driver but lacking any real excitement.
Don't get me wrong, I do like the look of the centre locks (they look fantastic), but probably more style statement than function. I'd say the same about them on GT3 and Turbo models tooooooo.
No, never driven a GTS.
You've actually named all the cars around which the GTS slots in to give it much appeal.
Having driven a GTS and S, the GTS is the only Carrera i'd buy. The X.51 modification to the engine's graphs are worthy and the performance difference can be felt. It's not just about the 0 to 62 figure, its the extra shove you get vs S when actually driving the car, gear for gear, rev point to rev point, you get more performance. Why Porsche offers a prohbitively expensive Powerkit soon after launch of an engine is what puzzles me. Therefore the tech to fully exploit the S engine is readily available to Porsche at launch but most cars leave the factory with the lesser, default engine set up. That's only because of the massive price of the upgrade - the upgrade being a design that Porsche prefers to leave on the shelf and hope people will pay for but people rarely do and very few cars end up with the true potential of that engine. Porsche are masters of holding something back.
But its not just about the engine. For anyone who wanted the wider rear track and the extra traction feel therewith, but didn't want AWD, their options were limited. To only be able to get wide body RWD in the GT3 RS highights another distinction of the GTS. (For.someone already wanting AWD, the C4 GTS has less distinction over a C4S & so the C4 GTS doesn't grab my attention as much because if you find a C4S with X.51, you've pretty much got a C4 GTS.) Whilst on the subject of GT3, it's the very reason that someone not wanting a GT3 and wanting a 911 with more daily usability that enhances the GTS's appeal. With PDK and less need to tiptoe around a track focussed set-up on normal roads, I dare say the GTS PDK -Sport [Plus] mode will be no slower and give more enjoyment in the hands of an average driver than a GT3. Particularly if he has no interest in exploiting the GT3 advantage by taking his car on track days or away from the urban sprawl up into the hills to find the best driving roads.
Turbo, well there's a huge price difference. Someone with a budget for a new turbo is less likely to back pedal towards a 'Carrera S with options' budget, which is where the GTS sits. (Though your budget for options got you so much more on a GTS than CS, plus you can't option a wide body on a CS). So the comparison to the turbo seems pretty fundamental whether comparing them new or used. If you have more money to spend you can buy more car i.e. a turbo. If you don't have or don't want to spend that much money you can either go for a GTS or and older turbo and before the GTS you'd only have a choice of Carrera S and whatever older turbo fitted your budget. (I've personally wrestled with the dilemma of choosing between a used GTS PDK or a much older gen1 turbo. It came down to whether I really really had to have the turbo and go for a much older car or go for what felt like the smarter decision and go for the newer car with PDK. I never finalised the decision[&:])
I can see the appeal for the Carrera GTS and why they carry a premium on the used market. New or used, for the relatively small premium, I think it had enough about it to justify it. With so many different types of buyer, with different buying criteria, I think it slots into a niche gap quite easily.
There are currently just 12 GTS's for sale nationally via Porsche approved site (9 GTS2 and 3 GTS4) out of a total of 235 911's
Plan to keep mine [
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Is this morphing into a Spyder-like thread?
Chris_in_the_UK
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There are currently no Cayman Gen 1's with PCCB's for sale with the same spec as mine anywhere in the world via an OPC...
Touche......[8D]
Touche......[8D]
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