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Will I get booked?

As you say no weaving just inappropriate speed. Stupid but not crininal - I sppose they threw the book because of the racing element of the chase?

Andrew W.
 

ORIGINAL: gresley

As you say no weaving just inappropriate speed.  Stupid but not crininal - I sppose they threw the book because of the racing element of the chase?

Andrew W.

The guidlines for this offence would indeed be for commital to the Crown Court. Any evidence of racing, driving too close to the one in front, prolonged bad driving, showing off, especially on a busy road can all increase the penalty.

In another age, my base commander always doubled the tarrif for fighter pilots caught speeding. They should have been looking in their mirrors! In this case, either the chasing police motorbike was unmarked ( the drivers should however been suspicious) or the drivers did not use their mirrors.
 
Agreed - my impression was that it HAD to be an unmarked bike - but even then why on earth try to outrun it - never going to happen.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Andrew W.
 
Not that there is such a thing as an unmarked car or bike, especially a bike. There are always tell-tail signs such as unlit police signs or cameras.
 

ORIGINAL: dereksharpuk

Not that there is such a thing as an unmarked car or bike, especially a bike. There are always tell-tail signs such as unlit police signs or cameras.


I would say there are unmarked Bikes around.

In Scotland,I was driving my Turbo behind my friend's GT3 when I was aware of a Bike that had rapidly caught up but he hung back about 50 yards behind.

My wife Radio'd my friends wife that we had Company, and he tailed us for some 15 miles. Eventually he must have got Bored and he finally overtook on an unmarked Bike.

The only thing that gave the game away was 'POLICE' on the back of his all black clothing.

 
wasn't the police bike a little irresponsible also? he followed the GTR at 140+mph without his blues&twos on.
 
Very unlikely you will hear anything at all, if it was a good speed they would take great delight in pulling you over to book you both, sounds like a warnig, also remember they have to follow you for a given time to gain the evidence, I think he gave you both the desired effect, scare you into slowing down
 
If more than 14 days has passed since you think they clocked you then your ok.

They can clock more than one car if it was a video car using either police pilot or VASCAR
 
ORIGINAL: T200

If more than 14 days has passed since you think they clocked you then your ok.

They can clock more than one car if it was a video car using either police pilot or VASCAR

Not being the harbinger of doom .. just making sure we stay factual

14 days is the period of time Plod has to "serve" the NIP ie "best effort" , They DO NOT have to prove that the NIP reached the intended recipient within those 14 days .. so if you say register a car in Isle of man in a company name that has no address and the NIP takes weeks and weeks to get to "you" eventually it still stands .. best way of thinking is the NIP is good if it was sent to arrive at the registered keeper's last known address within 14 days of the offence (so generally yes unless you've "complicated" the ownership of a vehicle and an address 14 days plus a few from the "offense" usually are enough)

I though all forces have given up on VASCAR .. every VASCAR operator had to have a test re their ability to hit the buttons "at the right time", they got a certificate of competence confirming they passed .. thing was they did not have to score 100%, so a bunch of lawyers argued that their client was measured during the % of (in)ability the officer failed the test etc


 
I have assumed that JP has his vehicle registered to himself and would know if the NIP had dropped throught his door. Hence the 14 days.

VASCAR is still used up here in Scotland and police pilot is the same system ie Time over distance just a different name. these devices give the driver a fair chance as it is the avarge speed they calculate and not the actual speed shown in Falcon, pro laser and LT 20 20 and other similar devices.

As for re testing I have not heard of that up here it may happen in England but I guess practice makes perfect. Used in conjuction with video it is kinda hard to dispute as the police vehicles speed is shown on the video next to the detected speed. When played in court it is kinda hard to dispute.

Most cases are disputed with technical issues such as calibration and accuracy checks.
 

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